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bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as v
From: |
Alan Mackenzie |
Subject: |
bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value |
Date: |
Sat, 28 Oct 2023 18:17:04 +0000 |
Hello, Stefan.
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 13:17:13 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> > Currently feature/named-lambdas is mostly working, not fully working.
> Didn't know about this feature.
It's been hanging around the savannah repository since July.
> I like the idea of keeping better track of the origin of lambda
> expressions (tho, admittedly, the same problem occurs with other kinds
> of data: I have several times been faced with a keymap or a char-table,
> wondering where the heel it came from).
Maybe something similar might be possible for those type of objects.
> I took a look at
> git log -p main..origin/feature/named-lambdas
> but that's 127kB, so ... could [you] briefly describe the overall design
> (IOW, how it's seen by ELisp programmers, byte-compiler hackers, and
> ELisp users)?
Certainly. Each lambda expression has (usually) a defun within which it
is defined. Sometimes it's in a defvar, or defcustom. That
@dfn{defining symbol} is recorded in the lambda form in one of three
ways:
(i) For a cons form, it's (cadr form), a new field inserted between the
symbol `lambda' and the argument list.
(ii) For a byte-compiled form, it's (aref form 5), this new field going
after the doc string and before any interactive form in the compiled
form.
(iii) For a native-compiled subr it's (subr-native-defining-symbol
subr), a function defined in data.c. It accesses a new field in struct
Lisp_Subr called defining_symbol.
There are lots of detailed changes in eval.c and bytecomp.el (and
friends). Also the macro `lambda' in subr.el has been amended to insert
the current global defining-symbol if there isn't already a non-nil
symbol in that position. cl-print-object/compiled-function has been
amended to print the defining-symbol, and there is a new
cl-print-object/subr which does the same.
The intention is that compiled objects from earlier Emacsen can still be
loaded and run by feature/named-lambdas, just without the defining
symbols (which will appear to be nil).
> Also, what other approaches have you considered/tried and what were the
> problems you've encountered, if any?
feature/named-lambdas was originally intended for use in backtraces.
For the current bug, I've considered individually replacing each lambda
with a named defun, so that C-h v will show that name rather than an
unhelpful byte/native compiled anonymous function. That would be a lot
of work - my scripting found 63 defcustoms set to lambdas, 29 uses in
doc strings, and 215 suspicious occurrences with ordinary variables
(quite a few of which will be harmless). Amending all these (I guess
around 200 lambdas) would probably be too much work.
> Stefan
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Alan Mackenzie, 2023/10/25
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- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Alan Mackenzie, 2023/10/27
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Alan Mackenzie, 2023/10/28
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Stefan Kangas, 2023/10/28
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Alan Mackenzie, 2023/10/28
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/10/28
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Alan Mackenzie, 2023/10/28
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Stefan Monnier, 2023/10/28
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value,
Alan Mackenzie <=
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/10/28
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Alan Mackenzie, 2023/10/28
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Stefan Monnier, 2023/10/28
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Alan Mackenzie, 2023/10/28
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Stefan Monnier, 2023/10/29
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Alan Mackenzie, 2023/10/29
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Stefan Monnier, 2023/10/29
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Alan Mackenzie, 2023/10/29
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Stefan Monnier, 2023/10/29
- bug#66750: Unhelpful text in C-h v for variables with a lambda form as value, Alan Mackenzie, 2023/10/30