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bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if'
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if' |
Date: |
Thu, 07 Dec 2023 12:16:00 +0200 |
> From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
> Cc: 67669@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2023 01:08:51 -0800
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > AFAIU, the relevant fragment is:
> >
> > The expression looks like this:
> >
> > (if interprogram-cut-function
> > (funcall interprogram-cut-function string (not replace))))
> >
> > If an ‘interprogram-cut-function’ exists, then Emacs executes
> > ‘funcall’, which in turn calls its first argument as a function and
> > passes the remaining arguments to it. (Incidentally, as far as I can
> > see, this ‘if’ expression could be replaced by an ‘and’ expression
> > similar to the one in the first part of the function.)
> >
> > I don't see anything wrong here. Can you elaborate on why you think
> > the text in parentheses is inaccurate or incorrect or unclear?
>
> Sorry I wasn't very clear. I was referring to the part "... could be
> replaced by an ‘and’ expression similar to _the one in the first part of
> the function_." But when I tried to search for `and' in the example
> code of that section I found no `and' usage at all, which confused me a
> bit.
I think it means this part earlier in the node:
(if (fboundp 'menu-bar-update-yank-menu)
(menu-bar-update-yank-menu string (and replace (car kill-ring))))
> It was not until I looked at the texi source that I noticed that
> the original example code did use `and' which I linked in my first
> email, and it was later replace by the current one from Emacs 22 which
> no longer used `and'. Thus I would consider the text in the parentheses
> you quoted to be obsolete.
I don't think so.
> And of course as I mentioned in the previous email, IMHO it is probably
> not a good advice to use `and' to emulate `if'.
I disagree. I think the discussion of 'if' and 'and' there is
entirely appropriate and educational, and I personally do use these
interchangeably in some situations.
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/06
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Eli Zaretskii, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if',
Eli Zaretskii <=
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Eli Zaretskii, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Eli Zaretskii, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Drew Adams, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/08
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Eli Zaretskii, 2023/12/08
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/08
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Drew Adams, 2023/12/08