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bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if'
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if' |
Date: |
Fri, 08 Dec 2023 08:25:16 +0200 |
> From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
> Cc: 67669-done@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2023 12:37:58 -0800
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> I was referring to whether we care about and use the result of the
> >> statement/function call. In `and' we do, in `if' we don't and we just
> >> use the side effect.
> >
> > But that's not true. 'if' does return a value, and we do use it.
> > Consider this random example:
> >
> > (defsubst posn-area (position)
> > [...]
> > (let ((area (if (consp (nth 1 position))
> > (car (nth 1 position))
> > (nth 1 position))))
> > (and (symbolp area) area)))
> >
> > Here we bind 'area' to the value returned by 'if'.
>
> Well if we use `if' with else then yes.
No. When 'if' has no 'else' clause, and the test fails, 'if' returns
nil. This is used in many places in our code. Like this:
(let (baz)
(setq foo (concat "bar" (if (stringp baz) baz))))
=> "bar"
Here 'if' returns nil, and we use the feature of 'concat' to ignore
nil arguments.
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', (continued)
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Eli Zaretskii, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Eli Zaretskii, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Eli Zaretskii, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Eli Zaretskii, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Drew Adams, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/08
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if',
Eli Zaretskii <=
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/08
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Drew Adams, 2023/12/08
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Drew Adams, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/07
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Sean Whitton, 2023/12/08
- bug#67669: 29.1; Drop text suggesting using `and' to replace `if', Xiyue Deng, 2023/12/08