Re: some feedback

[Nicola Pero]

> this is not a bug report. I only give you some feedback about GNUstep
> compiling and installation.
> 
> I've downloaded :
>   gnustep-make-1.0.1.tar.gz
>   gnustep-objc-1.0.1.tar.gz
>   gnustep-base-1.0.1.tar.gz
>   gnustep-gui-0.6.8.tar.gz
>   gnustep-xgps-0.6.8.tar.gz
>   gnustep-examples-0.9.1.tar.gz
> 
> I've (quite) carefully readed the installation instruction.

Thanks for reporting - your main problem is that 0.6.8 does not work with
1.0.1 <because of release history> - that's our fault anyway - sorry for
that. 

Somewhere on the download page there is the following note: 

"Special Note: LaunchPad 1.0.1 (make/base) is incompatible with gui/xgps
6.8.0, you'll either need to revert to 1.0.0 or use a recent snapshot of
gui and xgps." 

Apparently, it's written too little and too obscurely to be noticed,
because nobody is reading it, I guess we really need to do something :-) 

Thanks for the comments!

 
> I would be gratefully to you if you can explain to me the correct way to
> let GNUmakefile includes the X11 libraries and the gnustep-base libraries
> every time is needed.

If you download a daily snapshot, everything should compile out-of-the-box
without changes.  You can keep the gnustep-make, gnustep-objc and
gnustep-base you have, and only use gnustep-gui, gnustep-xgps from the
snapshot.  That should really work. 

While we spend quite some effort into making good releases, we have been a
bit unlucky with them recently.  Perhaps we should attempt to modify in
some way the way we produce the releases to avoid these problems, but I
have no real idea how.

 
> I've also a question for you:
> Are the gnustep-base library suitable for writing non-graphical and
> non-GNUstep application in Objective C ?

The gnustep-base library is *great* for writing non-graphical applications
in Objective-C.  While the gui part might not be yet up to competitors,
the base library is outstanding in quality, efficiency, and design.

Of course, an application written using gnustep-make and gnustep-base is a
`gnustep' application. :-)  Perhaps by a `non-GNUstep' application you
mean an application which works well outside WindowMaker etc - and yes -
non graphical stuff works great using just gnustep-make and gnustep-base.


> Some times ago I've heard of "libobjects". Which of those library should I
> use for writing my Objective C - non GNUstep applications ?

Unless you use Apple Mac OS X, in which case you might consider their
Foundation library, if you want to write Objective-C non-GUI applications,
I strongly suggest gnustep-base as _the_ choice.