Re: slurs clashing with portato marks (which are inverted!)

[Graham Percival]

Yes, that was the original idea -- I wanted that symbol, because I 
thought
I'd seen it in a Britten cello suite.

I've just checked it, and the symbol is indeed there -- but it's placed
under the staff (due to \voiceTwo).  The tenuto line _is_ furthest
from the notehead; I was just confused.  :(

I think we can either eliminate the -_ symbol (encouraging people
to use ---. instead) or switch the order of the dot and line.  Even if
we keep the -_ symbol in the input language, internally* we could
simply replace it with ---. (rather than keeping the "portato" symbol).

* as always, I don't know much about LilyPond internals, so feel free
to ignore that part if it doesn't make sense.

Cheers,
- Graham

On 10-Jan-05, at 5:23 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

> Isn't the idea that you can use c^.^- to get the dot below the
> line and c^_ to get the dot above the line?
>
>    /Mats
>
> Erik Sandberg wrote:
> > On Saturday 01 January 2005 05.41, Wiz Aus wrote:
> > > What lilypond calls "portato" marks (a staccato dot and tenuto line
> > > combined) appear to be inverted - all scores I have have the 
> > > staccato dot
> > > closest to the notehead, and the tenuto line furthest.
> > Added as portato-direction.
> > Portato doesn't exist in the music I use to play, so I don't know 
> > myself which direction that is correct. Do you have concrete examples 
> > of well-engraved scores that do it the other way around? Or can 
> > anyone else confirm how it should look?
> > (Most sources I can find prefer tenuto lines, or slurred notes with 
> > staccato dots)
> > > Furhermore, slurs do not properly avoid them.
> > Added as c-slur-portato.
> > Thanks!
> > Erik
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