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Re: diacritic (Hebrew nikud) not well positioned


From: Graham Percival
Subject: Re: diacritic (Hebrew nikud) not well positioned
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 07:24:45 -0800

Thanks for this report.  I've added it to the google tracker; if
you have more information, please add it directly to that report:

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=541

Unfortunately I personally have no knowledge of how the offset is
calculated -- actually, I have no knowledge of lilypond
programming at all.  I also cannot estimate when a developer might
look at this report, but rest assured that it is now in the
system.  :)

Cheers,
- Graham


On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:36:25 +0200
Yotam Medini ________ __________ <address@hidden> wrote:

> In Hebrew Lyrics, frequently diacritic (diacritical marks) 
> are not well aligned with the letter they should be attached to.
> In Hebrew they are called 'nikud' or 'niqud' and are used as vowels.
> 
> Attached are example files of Lilypond source (\version "2.10.33")
> and an annotated screen shot.
> In that example, The Patah diacritic which is like an underline
> below a later
>   Unicode= U+05B7 : /afii57798 : HEBREW POINT PATAH 
>   http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=05B7
> appears 3 times:
> + On the left side, it is slightly right to the (Kaf) letter
> + In the middle it looks well aligned below the (He) letter.
> + In the last right side it is almost detached - right to the side
>   of the (Vav) letter, while it should have been below it.
> 
> Since I am well experienced with C++ and gdb, though not in Pango and
> Guile, if someone can point me - where in the C++ code this offset is
> being determined, I may try help solve this issue.
> 
> Note: In modern Hebrew text, diacritics are rarely used.  But with
> music notation, they become essential especially for 'prima vista'
> singing.  With the almost impossible mix of left-to-right music and
> natural right-to-left Hebrew, it is difficult in many cases to guess
> the right vowel without diacritical mark.  This is because the natural
> right-to-left Hebrew context is lost.
> 
> -- yotam




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