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Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points
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David Nalesnik |
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Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points |
Date: |
Thu, 3 May 2012 21:12:03 -0500 |
Hi Urs,
>> But this really _is_ helping to find suitable values for the
>> control-points.
>>
>
I'm very glad to hear this!
>
>> * Although I know bezier curves from vector graphics software, I
>> also was convinced that the 'control-points' were four points on
>> the curve that define its shape.
>>
>
Initially I did too...
> * In fact the first and last are such points, whereas the middle two
>> 'control-points' are the 'handles'.
>> -> Is this explained somewhere?
>> * From seeing the crosses I now realize that (when using your
>> function) all four offsets are relative to LilyPond's original
>> decision.
>> Well, if you think about it, that's quite obvious, but I always
>> assumed that if I change one offset the other control-points would
>> be affected accordingly.
>> But in fact they aren't. So if I for example raise the endpoint of
>> a slur, the third control-point may well get below the slur.
>> This makes me understand the seemingly strange behaviour of the
>> slurs when fiddling with the offsets.
>
> * -> Probably it'll greatly improve my 'tweaking experience', even
>> if I have seen this only once, not to speak if I manage to include
>> this in a real-life workflow ...
>> So, many thanks once more, David!
>>
>
You're very welcome! I've been playing around with it a bit myself, and
I'm becoming more and more convinced that something like this would be a
very useful feature.
You can also use it to show you the effect of changing other properties.
For example, you can see the effects of overriding 'height-limit and
'eccentricity. I'm finding it very instructive.
At least one thing, which I did do right now:
> I compiled one score with and without your cross setting, and comparing
> the two pdfs with Alt-Tab showed that the layout was perfectly identical -
> except for the additional crosses.
> So obviously the crosses are added after LilyPond decides about the layout.
>
I'm very glad to hear this! My worry was that the crosses might push
staves further apart in extreme situations.
Thanks for trying this out!
-David
- Feature request: Display bezier control-points, Urs Liska, 2012/05/03
- Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points, Ralph Palmer, 2012/05/03
- Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points, David Nalesnik, 2012/05/03
- Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points, David Nalesnik, 2012/05/03
- Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points, Urs Liska, 2012/05/03
- Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points, Urs Liska, 2012/05/03
- Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points, Thomas Morley, 2012/05/03
- Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points, David Nalesnik, 2012/05/03
- Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points, Urs Liska, 2012/05/04
- Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points, Thomas Morley, 2012/05/04
- Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points,
David Nalesnik <=
- Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points, Urs Liska, 2012/05/04
- Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points, James, 2012/05/04
- Re: Feature request: Display bezier control-points, Urs Liska, 2012/05/04