Re: [Bug] LilyPond Crash (return code -1073741819) - reproduceable?

[Jakob Schöttl]

Sorry for that mess..

Am 25.05.2014 08:06, schrieb James:
> Jakob
>
> Don't forget to include the bug list
>
> That error code is a general Windows return code. (0xc0000005) so it 
> doesn't really give anything much to work with except that it looks 
> like Guile is the problem :)
>
> ...
>
> On 25/05/14 01:31, Jakob Schöttl wrote:
> > > Do you get anything useful if you don't use Frescobaldi and just use 
> > > the lilypond command line but with the verbose option?
> > >
> > > i.e. lilypond --verbose --pdf Eigenes.ly
> > ... | grep -i segment
> > gives this (maybe interesting?):
> >
> > GUILE_INIT_SEGMENT_SIZE_1 wird auf 10485760 gesetzt
> > GUILE_MAX_SEGMENT_SIZE wird auf 104857600 gesetzt
> >
> > ("Setting constant to value")
> > Full output see below.
> >
> > > If you say that you can "remove a note" and it works (really? just 
> > > *any* note?) then what about adding a note or measure?
> > The problem started with the leading "r2." in the music expressions 
> > upper and lower.
> >
> > But with this "r2.":
> >
> > Removing the last three lines or the first ten lines of the music 
> > expression mandolin -> LilyPond runs, no crash.
> >
> > Removing only single notes inbetween -> Measure check fail, then 
> > LilyPond crashes.
> >
> > Adding notes (anywhere) -> LilyPond crashes.
> >
> > > It could be memory related - using some excessive NPP for instance - 
> > > but it sounds odd that a 'single note' would make that much difference.
>
> Some things that we might consider - again these are just constructive 
> suggestions than anything that is necessarily technically justified. I 
> looked on my own linux system and found I am not using the latest 
> version of guile (1.8.7) and the current (albeit 3 years old) 1.8.x 
> version is 1.8.8 which contains some fixes that *might* be relevant 
> for 64 bit systems. See:
>
> *http://preview.tinyurl.com/guile-news-1-8-8
> *

I think it's very hard if not impossible to downgrade only Guile in the 
LilyPond distribution for Windows systems. I have no idea how to do this.

Maybe I will try to find LilyPond for Windows from before 13 Dec. 2010 
(that's the commit date in Guile of the NEWS update to 1.8.8).

> **Also it would be interesting to know if you are using Win 8.1 or 
> just 8.0 as there have been (AFAIK) a fair few fixes and patches (not 
> least the full SP1) for 8.0 which could be relevant. I am not a 
> programmer so cannot help but someone might be able to see what might 
> be the issue.

The problem occurs for me on

Windows 8 Pro (x64)
Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)

(both with LilyPond 1.18.2)

> Finally is it possible to turn off (so to speak) any processes or 
> services that might be using significant memory (I can see for 
> instance that you have SQL installed on this box from the PATH 
> statement and wonder if you are running an SQL database 'instance' (if 
> that is the right word) as that might be using a lot of resources 
> (again forgive me for talking out of ignorance - I work for a software 
> company that often implements an SQL instance locally on the servers 
> we run on and know that this can use significant resources Non and/or 
> Paged Pool which can cause conflicts with other things such as 
> application/service crashes when it hits a tipping point).

I don't have any server processes running. But I just terminated 
background programs like DropBox and so on.

Same issue.

I also have 12 GB memory, theoretically it should be enough ;)

Thanks, Jakob