Unadorned cross-references

[carlos-prio]

> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2021 at 12:15 AM
> From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> To: "Augusto Stoffel" <arstoffel@gmail.com>
> Cc: bug-texinfo@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Unadorned cross-references
>
> > From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com>
> > Cc: bug-texinfo@gnu.org
> > Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 22:38:18 +0200
> >
> > On Mon, 31 May 2021 at 19:05, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> >
> > >> From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com>
> > >> Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 09:56:33 +0200
> > >>
> > >> I would like to suggest adding a command to Texinfo, as well as some
> > >> markup in the .info file format, to create unadorned cross-references,
> > >> that is, without the assumption that the cross reference fits in a
> > >> phrase like "see such and such".
> > >
> > > Given that Info is text-based format, how do you propose to do that?
> >
> > I'll give a bit more detail in the next message, but why being
> > text-based impose any significant limitation?
>
> Because, as Gavin points out, any "markup" you invent will be visible
> in the display of the Info readers other than Emacs (and in older
> Emacsen).
>
> > With pandoc, I'm pretty sure one can convert Python's manual from rst to
> > org format, and have a pretty decent pure-text rendering on Emacs,
> > hyperlink included, with no "see" where one shouldn't see it.
>
> Why are you so bothered by "see", but not by those "#" thingies you
> suggest to add?  How is the former different from the latter?

I would like to be able not to show page numbers on specific references.
At other times lines get too long and obfuscated when the page number
is included, especially when there is a long list.

Other times I want to put the links in a table with descriptions.  Page numbers
would make table too long.  The problems are particularly severe when outputting
as pdf.