Re: LGPL reverse engineering clause & Java

[David Kastrup]

Alexander Terekhov <terekhov@web.de> writes:

> David Kastrup wrote:
> [...]
>> > It's not a copyright violations to distribute lawfully made copies
>> > that I own.
>> 
>> Not?  So when I acquire a copy of Microsoft Windows, and make 50 legal
>> backup copies of it, I can sell those copies again, and it is not a
>> copyright violation?
>
> Backup copies can be distributed along with non-backup copies 
> from which backup copies were prepared. I'm not talking about 
> backup copies.

Well, I don't need to call them backup copies.  According to you I
have some right to lawfully make copies, for whatever reason, and
distribute them.

What gives me that right?

>> Are you sure about that?  Really, really, sure?  I would certainly
>> not want to go out on a limb like that without you promising very
>> solemnly that you are quite sure.
>> 
>> > Thank you for your unilateral permission to make copies
>> 
>> Oh, but it was a conditional permission with strings attached.  The
>> GPL.
>
> Whatever.

Well, that's what makes the difference.

>> > and for public availability of your work all over the net. I don't
>> > need another permission to distribute from you in addition to "first
>> > sale" limitation of your exclusive distribution right.
>> 
>> First sale?  So what did you pay me to make this "first sale"? 
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=cauv72%249nu%241%40vegh.ks.cc.utah.edu
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=cauvfk%249sc%241%40vegh.ks.cc.utah.edu

I am afraid that I can't accept payment with hyperlinks.

>> Would that also mean that if a newspaper has an online edition, I
>> am free to take parts of their articles, claim them as my own and
>> republish them, according to some first sale availability all over
>> the net?
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=40CF498F.7D7CC3E9%40web.de

You will forgive me that I am no longer inclined to waste my time with
your keyword search links.  If you think you have something relevant,
just cite it.  Don't be afraid: it is likely to be considered fair use.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum