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Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Brazilian GNUtian Oliva: "how about mutual
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Alexander Terekhov |
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Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Brazilian GNUtian Oliva: "how about mutual compatibility between Linux's GPLv2 and GPLv3?" |
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Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:04:53 +0200 |
Over there on LKML... the thread is unfolding... LOL.
Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>
> Here's an idea that just occurred to me, after all the discussions
> about motivations, tit-for-tat, authors' wishes and all.
>
> If GPLv3 were to have a clause that permitted combination/linking with
> code under GPLv2, this wouldn't be enough for GPLv3 projects to use
> Linux code, and it wouldn't be enough for Linux code to use GPLv3
> projects. That's because GPLv2 would still demand all code to be
> licensed under GPLv2, and GPLv3 wouldn't permit this.
>
> However, if GPLv3 had a permission to combine/link with code under
> GPLv2, *and* Linux (and any other projects interested in mutual
> compatibility) introduced an additional permission to combine/link
> with code under GPLv3 (or even GPLv3+, constrained by some condition
> if you will), then:
>
> - the kernel Linux could use code from GPLv3 projects
>
> - GPLv3 projects could use code from Linux
>
> - each copyright holder would still get to enforce the terms s/he
> chose for his/her own code
>
> Does this sound like something that would make sense for your
> community, so as to maintain/increase cooperation between authors who
> love GPLv2 and those who love defense for freedom, while respecting
> each author's not-always-compatible wishes?
>
> In other words, does it even make sense for the FSF to consider
> introducing such a provision in GPLv3, that AFAICT, by itself, would
> have no effect whatsoever, since an additional permission would be
> needed for the GPLv2 side?
>
> If you were to permit compatibility with GPLv3+ (rather than GPLv3),
> would you constrain it? Would something like:
>
> as long as the later version grants each licensee the same
> permissions as GPLv2, except for constraining permissions that would
> enable one licensee to deny other licensees the exercise of the
> permissions granted by both licenses
>
> do, subject to translation to proper legalese (if that's at all
> possible)?
>
> Do you know of any other communities that are like-minded with you,
> that are sticking with GPLv2, that I could poll about interest in such
> a provision in GPLv3?
>
> Thanks, and sorry for taking your attention away from coding one more
> time. I hope you find it worth it this time.
>
> --
> Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/
> FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/
> Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org}
> Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org}
> -
regards,
alexander.
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