Re: RMS transcript for all the GNU fans

[Alexander Terekhov]

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: [TO: chris@dibona.com et al., CC: g.m.d]
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> It is unfortunately too easy to make the mistake of feeding the robot
> troll. :|

Can you hear that, buddy rjack from insightbb division of troll brigade?

:-)

> 
> As everyone knows, Google has been quite friendly towards Free Software,
> but that doesn't mean all it makes is Free Software, which could
> certainly be improved in the future (and I hope so).
> 
> My phrase below mentions TerraMetrics, but that could perfectly well be
> 
>         $owner_name =~ /.*/
> 
> :)
> 
> Rui
> 
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 01:01:22PM +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
> >
> > Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 08:17:46PM +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote:
> > > > DiBona of Google (Open Source Programs Manager):
> > > >
> > > > "issue is that Richard wants the imagery that we ourselves do not own"
> > > >
> > > > http://www.crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:mss:14528
> > >
> > > This makes no sense, DiBona is not being clear enough, opening doors
> > > for your venom spit.
> > >
> > > In your quote, Ricard is talking about Google Earth as the non-Free
> > > Software program. Every non-Free Software program is designed to
> > > restrict freedom, it clearly says so in their license.
> > >
> > > That's completely beside the point of wanting or not the collection
> > > of images. IMNSHO, sattelite photos of *our* planet have no business
> > > being owned by TerraMetrics, the owners of Google Maps' imagery.
> >
> > <Forward Inline>
> >
> > -------
> > Subject: Re: SFLC will love the 7th Circuit
> > To: chris@dibona.com
> > Cc: verdy_p@wanadoo.fr, dlw <danw6144@insightbb.com>, 
> > license-discuss@opensource.org
> >
> > Hi Chris;
> >
> > On 10/15/07, Chris DiBona <cdibona@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Actually, you're mixing up earth (where the issue is that Richard
> > > wants the imagery that we ourselves do not own) and the google search
> > > appliance. I invite you to go mess with the mirror on code.google.com,
> >
> > Now, when it has become clear that according to GNU Law you have lost
> > all your licenses to GPL'd stuff inside search appliance ("permanently
> > for every program from every copyright holder, and has to then go and
> > beg forgiveness from everyone"), please consider the following opinion
> > from renowned GNUtian Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <rms@1407.org> (famous
> > Portugal OOXML buster
> > http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=2007071812280798):
> >
> > "Ricard is talking about Google Earth as the non-Free Software
> > program. Every non-Free Software program is designed to restrict
> > freedom, it clearly says so in their license.
> >
> > That's completely beside the point of wanting or not the collection of
> > images. IMNSHO, sattelite photos of *our* planet have no business
> > being owned by TerraMetrics, the owners of Google Maps' imagery."
> >
> > Checking....
> >
> > Indeed.
> >
> > http://earth.google.com/intl/en-US/license.html
> >
> > Question: are you being disingenuous or what?
> >
> > Just curious.
> >
> > On Oct 15, 2007 9:47 AM, Philippe Verdy <verdy_p@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > > Alexander Terekhov [mailto:alexander.terekhov@gmail.com] wrote:
> > > > > Open Source Programs Manager, Google Inc.
> > > >
> > > > http://fsfe.org/en/fellows/ciaran/ciaran_s_free_software_notes/transcript_
> > > > richard_stallman_honary_degree_speech_pavia_2007
> > > >
> > > > "Google designs software specifically to restrict the user. That's the
> > > > nature of the Google Earth client: it is made the way it is
> > > > specifically to restrict the people who use it. Obviously, it's not
> > > > Free Software, because Free Software develops under the democratic
> > > > control of its users."
> >
> > regards,
> > alexander.
> >
> > --
> > "To show the falsity of 'PJ''s claims, in most cases I need look no further
> > than Groklaw itself. 'PJ' wants more journalists to use the site as a
> > resource, so I'll do just that. Below are excerpts from my story that 'PJ'
> > says are incorrect, followed by 'PJ''s characterization of them, and my
> > response -- at times taken directly from Groklaw."
> >
> >                                        -- http://tinyurl.com/2mn3jc
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regards,
alexander.

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