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Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar


From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:43:05 +0100
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"amicus_curious" <ACDC@sti.net> writes:

> "David Kastrup" <dak@gnu.org> wrote in message
> 85fxi6u9li.fsf@lola.goethe.zz">news:85fxi6u9li.fsf@lola.goethe.zz...
>> "amicus_curious" <ACDC@sti.net> writes:
>>
>>> "Alan Mackenzie" <acm@muc.de> wrote in message
>>> news:gnq384$27ef$1@colin2.muc.de...
>>>>
>>>> You could make the same sort of argument about any "petty" peccadillo.
>>>> Why bother prosecuting a fare dodger for a 2 Euro fare?  Seems a bit
>>>> disproportionate, doesn't it?
>>>>
>>> Do they arraign and prosecute people for this in your town?
>>
> Well, we only have fares for the bus riders and if you don't pay, the
> driver throws you off.  How would you even manage to keep score as to
> how many times a person "dodged a fare" for two bucks?

The conductors take your personals, charge you the equivalent of about
20 fares.  If this happens too often, they take you to court for
damages.  I think you get the equivalent of a ban from the company's
premises if you do this too often, in addition to the fines.

> How many times can you do it before they come looking for you?

Try it.

>> I have patched proprietary software (drivers, Pascal runtimes and
>> others) in the binaries for removing bugs that were hampering my work
>> flow.  It is a nuisance to debug using only binaries.  It is not a
>> matter of efficiency: if you think you can tell somebody like Digital
>> Research to please fix a system call from some driver DLL, you are
>> simply deluded about your influence and their response time and
>> response style.
>
> You seem to be a little out of touch.  Digital Research was crushed by
> Microsoft some years ago.

So what?  It was still some DRDOS internal driver which I had to patch
at that time.  History does not change with the present.  If you don't
understand the basics of how time works for the daily life, you should
take some courses.

> But in any case you would have to offer much more detail as to your
> prowess with such things.  I still think you are just bluffing.
> Certainly anyone with such work to do wouldn't have time to waste
> around here.  We .NET folk, OTOH, have time to burn.

I doubt that you programmed any .NET application to be taken seriously.

>> There are several thousands copyright owners if you are talking about
>> the kernel.  You need all their agreement for a license upgrade.  The
>> FSF has its own opinion about just how smart that was.  If you are
>> talking about the user land, a lot of it is migrating to GPLv3.
>> After all, large portions are (c) FSF anyway.
>>
> There you go waving your hands in the thin air again.  What are the
> top 4 FOSS programs that have moved from GPLv2 to v3?

What about GCC, coreutils, glibc, and just for fun, Emacs?

>> Serious amount of money when done commercially?  More likely serious
>> jail terms.  It is somewhat disconcerting that copyright violations
>> tend to get longer jail terms than manslaughter and rape.
>>
> I don't think that you are talking about the USofA here.  No one in my
> memory has ever gone to jail for piracy of software or music or any
> other copyright violation.

What country are you living in?

> All the horror stories about the BSA prosecution on behalf of
> Microsoft are only in regard to collecting fees owed.  I guess if you
> prosecute people for not paying their fares, you might jail them for
> copying music and software, too.  I wouldn't want to live where you
> are.

It would appear that you don't even have a clue about where you live.

-- 
David Kastrup


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