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Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’ (was: Turning GNU into a bottom-up org
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Alfred M. Szmidt |
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Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’ (was: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization) |
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Mon, 28 Oct 2019 13:59:08 -0400 |
Excuse me, do GNU actually have precedents when the âstubborn
governanceâ was proved to be needed to keep things free?
Readline, Objective-C backend, not allowing propietery hackery with
GCC, GPLv3 and Tivioization, Emacs and plugins, come to mind.
Fighting non-free software is always a uphill battle.
IIRC, @ludo@gnu.org and Co. were initially going to reserve âGuixâ
for package manager only, while calling the system distribution
âGNUâ â simply âthe GNUâ: they presented it as âGNUâ at GHM and
FOSDEM, published the first alpha releases of âGNUâ, and even the
/gnu/ hierarchy is a remnant of that intention.
The first alpha of GNU was already published back in the 1997.
Being made that way, despite all the best intentions they had, it
would be obviously perceived as a statement âwe are the proper and
pureblood GNU, while Debian and other GNU distributions are
impostorsâ, so RMS, of course, strongly opposed that.
How such an issue would be supposed to be resolved with a
ânon-stubbornâ governance?
To understand a opposition, one needs to know the why. Taking your
statement at face value as to what might have been said, that is,
calling other free systems for "lesser systems" would be unfriendly
and unkind, so why do that? That in it self would be a good reason to
strongly object to such a statement since it would alienate people
working on other free systems.
But now knowing the precise words used, making any fair analysis of
the decision is hard, and a simply way to find a false reasoning is to
call it "stubborn" or similar.
- Re: A GNU "social contract", (continued)
- Re: A GNU “social contract”?, Ruben Safir, 2019/10/28
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/27
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Samuel Thibault, 2019/10/27
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/27
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Samuel Thibault, 2019/10/27
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/28
- Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’ (was: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization), Dmitry Alexandrov, 2019/10/28
- Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’ (was: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization),
Alfred M. Szmidt <=
- Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’, Dmitry Alexandrov, 2019/10/29
- Re: Need of ‘stubborn governance’, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/31
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Samuel Thibault, 2019/10/27
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Jean Louis, 2019/10/28
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Jean Louis, 2019/10/28
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Jean Louis, 2019/10/28
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Florian Weimer, 2019/10/24
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/27
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Samuel Thibault, 2019/10/27
- Re: Turning GNU into a bottom-up organization, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2019/10/27