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Re: A GNU “social contract”?


From: Ruben Safir
Subject: Re: A GNU “social contract”?
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 19:58:47 -0400
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

https://www.hair-loss-is-awesome.com/100-baldness-jokes/


On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:27:51AM +0530, Jean Louis wrote:
> * Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@gnu.org> [2019-10-29 00:12]:
> > Jean Louis, le lun. 28 oct. 2019 21:54:00 +0530, a ecrit:
> > > Virgin joke is a joke
> > 
> > Now that I have read about it, I can definitely say that it is a
> > completely inappropriate joke.
> 
> But I gave you the link, Russians are laughing, so look 26th August
> 2019 in Moscow, Russia, good reception, hear people applauding:
> https://youtu.be/yCh8EcBrptA?t=6841 hear people laughing, giggling.
> 
> > Sure, it'll get a lot of people laugh.  But it'll also get some
> > people not at ease / ashamed, etc., which is just in line with that
> > I wrote:
> 
> You cannot use "jokes" to accommodate everybody.
> 
> Impossible.
> 
> And for that reason RMS did not deserve to get defamed.
> 
> Now I am getting it, you are simply easily offended. I hope I am not
> offending you, but if I do, my intention was to intellectualy
> differentiate if there is some FACT to your statement, or if you just
> gave your "signature" to Ludovic Courtès just "to be in" with them,
> rather without proper analysis should you give such signature.
> 
> > Let me take a personal example, which I can thus speak for myself: I'm
> > getting bald. Just like my grand father at the same age, actually a bit
> > later than him, so there is nothing to be worried about. But jokes
> > that people make about it make me not at ease with it for no good
> > reason. That's just plainly wrong.
> 
> I can understand you. We are people, we are different. If you don't
> like people making jokes on "bald" subject, don't listen.
> 
> But for one joke, person (RMS) is not bad. The statement is defaming
> founder of GNU Project. It is illegal act in many countries. It
> negatively reflect on GNU project, RMS, and free software in
> general. Media is so glad to pick on quarrel we do in GNU community
> when we are dividing each other. It is thoughtless joining into the
> statement that does not help to promote free software philosophy.
> 
> Look, I am loosing hair too, and I find it normal. And I can laugh and
> allow people to make jokes about me, I have no objections. I was also
> born in the environment where even wearing "green sweater" was picked
> with jokes. I felt bad, I wore it one time in life, one such nice
> green sweater from Switzerland, I felt very good, and in the school,
> somebody made a joke related to "green" and related to certain class
> of religious people, to which I did not want to identify, and I felt
> offended. And never wore that sweater again. Now I am grown, adult, I
> would never disallow people to make jokes, I would counter with more
> jokes. I would not get offended.
> 
> My father is bald, I am losing hair, wonder that I did not lose it so
> much earlier. If people start making jokes about my baldness, I will
> counter with some jokes, but will certainly not feel offended. I have
> changed throughout the time. In fact I find jokes welcoming. It is
> kind of social interaction, it is much better to speak in jokes, then
> in some kinds of depressive expressions without humor.
> 
> Please don't feel offended by next one, I found it on Internet:
> 
> Why do SJWs hate Apple computers?
> Because they're not PC
> 
> 
> Jean

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