Re: State of the GNUnion 2020

[Jean Louis]

* Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@gnu.org> [2020-02-22 23:58]:
> Jean Louis, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 23:43:55 +0300, a ecrit:
> > * Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@gnu.org> [2020-02-22 23:22]:
> > > Jean Louis, le sam. 22 févr. 2020 18:02:42 +0300, a ecrit:
> > > > * Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@gnu.org> [2020-02-22 12:51]:
> > > > > Really, not including the next generations in a project is running the
> > > > > risk of the project just dying with its leaders.
> > > > 
> > > > I can see great bunch of disrespect there.
> > > > 
> > > > I am born in place where our parents teach us good manners.
> > > 
> > > I'm sorry and apologize if you felt disrespect, that was not meant to
> > > be.
> > 
> > No, I do not feel any disrespect to me, and I would not care really,
> > as we are far apart and there is no practical influence.
> > 
> > But to use the GNU mailing list, to divide the GNU, and to use the GNU
> > mailing list and to speak of RMS dying, with its leaders, that is
> > disrespect and bad manner.
> 
> I was not talking about a particular person, but about projects in
> general. Also, see the "s" in "leaders". That was really meant to be a
> general phrasing.

Look -- let me come to the house of my friend's father, and then speak
that houses are often sold when fathers as owners of the house dies. I
am not speaking about particular person, but just about general
fathers of houses in general, and I am using "s" for plural, as that
is meant to be general phrasing.

Give me a break.

> > > I'm here speaking as an oldie, actually. An oldie who had to ask himself
> > > that very question for some projects already.  I have already seen some
> > > projects litteraly die with their leader. You have to welcome newcomers,
> > > beginners, etc. otherwise your project will just stop when you're not
> > > there to continue them any more. Getting old is just an example. Having
> > > children or moving onto another project are other examples.
> > 
> > So what, it happens for last 500,000 years ago.
> 
> Ok. But don't we want the GNU project to outlive ourself? To make sure
> that the next generations will have a free operating system?

GNU project is about making free operating system, thus it is there,
as long as it is compatible with computers, you may carry it on in the
future life.

> I'm not saying that all current GNU packages should live on
> indefinitely. I'm saying that if we don't make sure to include newcomers
> to GNU packages, newcomers will not consider making their new software
> part of GNU, and the GNU project will just shade with time.

Give me example of one newcomer who was not included. Please cut the
generalities, give me one example, and let us contact somebody in GNU
project to see why that particular example was not included.

Jean