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Re: GNU Guile community in google+


From: Noah Lavine
Subject: Re: GNU Guile community in google+
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:18:57 -0500

Hello,

I don't entirely understand what everyone here wants, but there are reasons besides company control to avoid proprietary networking sites like Google+. Since it will never be the case that all Guilers have an account on Google+ (or Facebook, or whatever else), a group there could only ever include part of the community. Especially in a community as small as Guile's, I'd like to see a solution that includes everyone.

However, there clearly is a desire for some new forum for Guilers to talk to each other. It appears, based on https://www.google.com/search?q=make+a+blog+aggregator , that the software to set a blog aggregator up is free (and Free). There's an LWN article on how to set one up. There is also a WordPress plugin, hosted here: http://feedwordpress.radgeek.com/ .

A wiki might also be useful. If so, let's agree to use the one at libreplanet.org (or something similar), so that the Guile wiki notes will all be in one place and can easily be found.

Thanks,
Noah


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Mark H Weaver <address@hidden> wrote:
zx spectrumgomas <address@hidden> writes:
> Honestly, if you do not see that social networks are essential to the
> success of a project nowadays I'm sure you have more than 30 years. I
> have 40 and I have not used social networking until + / - 2 years, but
> it's amazing the amount of information/opinion is moving there. For
> the forties this may not be a problem, but look where teenagers are:
> watching their timeline on a android or apple. GNU Guile doesn't
> capture attention of all those people, and if not remedied GNU Guile
> will age. With all due respect Andy Wingo and Ludovic Courtes will not
> live forever.

Even if what you say is true, we must still reject the centralized
social networking sites.  That issue is incomparably more important than
the popularity of GNU Guile.  It is no exaggeration to say that freedom
of thought is at stake.  Watch Eben Moglen's speech to understand why:

  http://archive.org/details/EbenMoglen-WhyFreedomOfThoughtRequiresFreeMediaAndWhyFreeMedia

I would much rather work toward a future with freedom of thought but no
GNU Guile than a future with GNU Guile but without freedom of thought.

Please remember that the purpose of the GNU operating system (of which
Guile is one component) is to help achieve freedom for computer users.
It makes no sense to abandon freedom in order to help promote GNU.

     Mark



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