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Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful


From: Arne Babenhauserheide
Subject: Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:19:46 +0100
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Thien-Thi Nguyen <address@hidden> writes:

> () Arne Babenhauserheide <address@hidden>
> () Sun, 05 Mar 2017 01:23:59 +0100
>
>    Just having a geiser setup for Emacs properly documented — or
>    maybe an Emacs customized for Scheme development — would help
>    a lot, I think.
>
> Could you please summarize (or point to a summary of) Geiser
> documentation deficiencies?

I can’t just say "give me the canonical Guile development environment"
and have that work without any additional setup needed from me. This is
not about the documentation of Geiser itself but rather about the
documentation of "how to make Emacs the best tool for hacking Scheme".

The following contains user experience questions of coming to
geiser. These will sound unfair, because they assume a user who did not
read any documentation and just wants to work on a Scheme file given to
him/her by a co-worker, likely with a sentence like "here’s the file,
you’ll need to adapt it for your usecase".

This is how I come to geiser:


First I use M-x package-list-packages to find and install geiser (Why is
geiser not shipped with Emacs (like org-mode)?).

Then I open a Scheme file, then I type M-x geiser followed by guile (why
doesn’t geiser start by default? Why do I have to know that the best way
to write scheme is called geiser?).

Finally I add M-x geiser-mode in the file (why does this not happen
automatically? — or: why is there no information in the REPL that I can
do so?).


Now I have a Geiser repl and a function tool tip in the echo area.

Is this the canonical setup people use? What else is there I do not get
right away? From the IDEs co-workers use I know display of local
variables (and their values). And warnings and errors shown in the
fringe (I get that in Python with flycheck mode). Is this also provided
by geiser (maybe harnessing some other tool)?


Best wishes,
Arne

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