[h-e-w] RE: new user keybindings

[Raymond Zeitler]

You are right, Lennart.  I do use C-c C-v in other Windows apps,
including Outlook for e-mail.

Occasionally I'll press C-y in a Windows app and call up Redo, and
more frequently I'll press C-v to paste into an Emacs buffer.  It's
not a big deal for me, not enough to motivate me to re-bind the keys.
After all, I've been using Emacs this way for six years.  And I don't
regret following the manual's advice about not re-binding.

I do appreciate all the work you and others put into the Windows port
of Emacs.  I hope it will continue to attract new users, which, in
Turn, might motivate you to improve Emacs' Windows compatibility.

So how does one copy and paste a rectangle when using CUA-mode? :>

-----Original Message-----
From: Lennart Borgman [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 10:39 AM
To: Raymond Zeitler
Cc: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [h-e-w] RE: new user keybindings

Are you using a lot of other programs on windows too? Don't you use the 
CUA bindings for copy, cut, paste and undo there? Are you not experience

any conflict when you frequently switch from Emacs to other applications

(and are in a hurry or stressed for other reasons)?

It seems to me like habits die hard. For example when you answered to 
this mail you put your answer at the top. Is not that a convention 
frequently used by people used to windows?


Raymond Zeitler wrote:
> I agree with Mr. Heffner.  I've not tried CUA mode, so I can
> only imagine that a user wouldn't be able to copy and paste a
> rectangle without reverting to native keybindings.
>
> When I started using Emacs for the first time (v20.7), I took
> the manual's advice and avoided large scale key re-binding.  I'm
> glad I did.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:08:12 -0700
> From: "Stephen F. Heffner" <address@hidden>
> Subject: RE: [h-e-w] new user keybindings
> To: <address@hidden>
>
> Lennart Borgman spake thusly:
>
>   
>> IMHO CUA-bindings are that important for windows users that 
>> they deserve 
>> a place in the tutorial. I believe cua-mode makes it much 
>> easier for a 
>> windows user to learn and use Emacs.
>>     
>
> [snip]
> However, as newbies gain experience and do more things with Emacs,
they
> will
> find that CUA only covers the basics, and they will have to learn the
> "Emacs
> way" anyway, in order to progress in proficiency.
> [snip]
>