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RE: someone shortcircuiting this list to razor-report?


From: Frederico Costa
Subject: RE: someone shortcircuiting this list to razor-report?
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 01:18:07 +0100

Hi all ...

Well I am on for the move of this list for a more non Spam alike place.

Lately it has been crazy, and has I am getting my mails through a
mobile, is no fun at all...

I will suggest egroups, or named now yahoo groups.
I am member of some of the groups, and they are very clean regarding
Spam

What do you think ?

Frederico


> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden 
> On Behalf Of Gianni Mariani
> Sent: 21 January 2002 21:56
> To: Donald Sharp
> Cc: Art; address@hidden
> Subject: Re: someone shortcircuiting this list to razor-report?
> 
> 
> 
> I second the motion to move this list.
> 
> I'm going to remove myself from the list anyway if this keeps 
> on going 
> so moving it to some kind trash safer alternative sounds like 
> the better 
> alternative.
> 
> So, what are the alternatives ?
> 
> Donald Sharp wrote:
> 
> >This issue has come up before( repeatedly ).  More than 
> likely the list 
> >owners are not overly interested in acting in the lists best 
> interests?  
> >Perhaps it is time for someone to step forward for a new 
> list location?  
> >Perhaps we could use sourceforge for this?
> >
> >donald
> >On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 01:07:24PM -0600, Art wrote:
> >
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: address@hidden 
> [mailto:address@hidden Behalf 
> >>>Of Karl E. Jorgensen
> >>>Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:31 AM
> >>>
> >>...
> >>
> >>>On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 04:38:53PM +0100, Niklas Hallqvist wrote:
> >>>
> >>...
> >>
> >>>>Although this is clearly the most spam-intensive list I have ever 
> >>>>been onto I somehow find it bad that someone is reporting *all* 
> >>>>info-cvs messages to Razor (a collaborative 
> spam-filtering network, 
> >>>>see http://razor.sourceforge.net/).  This causes false positives 
> >>>>from Razor, which is irritating.  So if someone know that 
> they have 
> >>>>done somekind of automatic filter and is seeing this, 
> please check 
> >>>>that your filter is correct!  I realize there is likely 
> no chance in 
> >>>>hell reaching the one who does this, as (s)he is likely ignoring 
> >>>>mails his filter is throwing away, but I thought I'd try anyhow.
> >>>>
> >>>I'm having the same problem. Almost of razor's false positives are 
> >>>postings on this list.
> >>>
> >>>PS: You posting was treated as spam, curtesy of razor (or rather:
> >>>    Somebody feeding bogus info to razor...)
> >>>
> >>First, they steal the bandwidth, then they forge headers to 
> innocent 
> >>bystanders, and now, they're using our own anti-spam technology 
> >>against us! I.e., they redirect all messages to a spam filtering 
> >>network, basically debilitating it's efficacy... Sound familiar?
> >>
> >>Perhaps ORDB.org, Razo, et al should communicate better and 
> identify 
> >>and sever all connections to spammers and their ISPs?
> >>
> >>But, I'd like to see the owner of the info-cvs-admin and 
> bug-cvs-admin 
> >>mailing lists ACTUALLY TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY in 
> filtering out the 
> >>SPAM. Personally, I'd wouldn't mind a 24 hour blackout once 
> a year in 
> >>exchange for not being subjected to 30 spam messages a day 
> from these 
> >>two mailing lists.
> >>
> >>In fact, I'm more concerned about users who have to pay 
> time and money 
> >>and only have 56 Kbps service, because they've already paid for the 
> >>spam they've had to filter out at their end!
> >>
> >>Art
> >>
> >>
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