Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

[Ralf Corsepius]

Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> On Monday 2009-03-09 16:10, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>   
> > > > > > > For this patch, I'm unsure if we should even add it at all.
> > > > > > >               
> > > > > > FWIW: I am opposed to it.
> > > > > > All this silencing stuff does is to add further potential sources of
> > > > > > errors.
> > > > > >        
> > > > > >             
> > > > > Which ones, please?
> > > > >       
> > > > >           
> > > > Those yet to be discovered.
> > > >    
> > > >         
> > > Oh what great prejudice.
> > >       
> > No, that's experience and a matter of design.
> >
> > IMNSHO, this --silent thing is entirely superfluous featuritis, whose only
> > achievement it is to stir up things.
> >
> >     
> And I take it you also oppose cmake then 
Correct.

> - just out of principle -,
>   
No, ... but my reasons for not liking cmake are off-topic here.
> which has some similar silent mode too (by default even!)...
>   
Correct. that's one of cmake's sillynesses. It hides away the silent 
bugs a package suffers from.
> What is being quiesced (it's not even silent, linguistically) is the
> utterly long command line that is traditionally so prevalent during
> compilation in automake-using projects. Not the warnings or errors
> $CC would give, so I find your claim without substance.
>   
Pardon, but you are "fixing" something, which has hardly been an issue 
(I recall you repeatedly complaining about it), for the 15years+, the 
autotools are around.

Ralf