Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: A modest proposal

[Stephen Wilson]

C Y <address@hidden> writes:

> --- Stephen Wilson <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > No one, to my knowledge, is rewriting noweb or some equivalent in
> > Lisp.
> 
> He's referring to cl-web, I believe. 

Duh, of course. Sorry Cliff! Temporary blackout, I belive. 

> If I understand correctly from previous posts, in this context "ghetto"
> is being used to describe a large body of tools that are divorced from
> mainstream directions being taken by the open source community. 
> Centering on Lisp already triggers some of those complaints, and Bill's
> concern (if I understand correctly) is that if we home-grow too much we
> will end up not being able to grow with the open source world and be
> left behind with a bunch of non-standard tools no one wants to take the
> time to understand.

Ok.  I recall similar notions.  New tools that solve new problems are
always non-standard by definition.  I just never connected `ghetto'
with that perspective.  

> Obviously I disagree that this is what will happen - Lisp I don't
> regard as a ghetto and ASDF is the standard solution within the Lisp
> world.  It seems to be well designed and flexible.  And the goal is to
> develop tools such that given a working Lisp environment users and
> developers will be able to focus on the Algebra without worrying about
> the underlying tools.  If they MUST work with them, I would like them
> to be literate all the way down - no dark corners to get into trouble
> with.  But that's again just me.

Your certainly not alone :)


Cheers,
Steve