Re: [FarsiLinux] New member & suggestions

[Arash Bijanzadeh]

On Sunday 03 August 2003 16:19, Arash Zeini wrote:
> On Sunday 03 August 2003 14:50, Aryan Ameri wrote:
> > On Thursday 31 July 2003 10:16, Arash Bijanzadeh wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 30 July 2003 14:34, Aryan Ameri wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 29 July 2003 15:42, Arash Bijanzadeh wrote:
> > > > > And what  do you think of the extra CDs for standard distro's?
> > > >
> > > > A really nice idea. However given our current resources, I think
> > > > this one shouldn't be high in our agenda, and should wait after we
> > > > have reached some milestones in our own distro.
> > >
> > > Do not agree!
> > >  It is just a matter of packaging.
> >
> > Excuse me???? Just a matter of packaging? don't think so.
> >
> > You said that we should find a way, to add Farsi support to major Linux
> > distros. As far as I can see, it's more a matter of writing scripts,
> > than a matter of packaging. For redhat as an example, we should remove
> > it's KDE, install a new KDE, then add things like fonts and keyboard
> > layout and etc to it, then ....
> >
> > Come to think of it Arash, it is not that muc simple. It's a good idea,
> > sure, but one for the future.
> >
> > > And for our own distro we need
> > > both the packages and the experience of packaging.
> >
> > Packaging is not that much a great deal. Is it? There are thousand of
> > HOWTOS describing how to package into .DEB and RPM format.

Adding fonts, changing the configuration and even removing another package 
could be done via a sophisticated package - the last one is not really 
peaceful and recommended! - 
I knew there is tons of HOWTOs but try to build a simple package and then you 
will find out handling packages of an application as large as KDE how much 
difficult is.

>
> I don't agree with ab, but packaging is not THAT easy.
> Whilw we have not solved the first problems, I do not see why we should add
> more work to our tasks?!


can you assign tasks to the members? then we would be more productive. I feel 
we are working a bit messy, or maybe I am doing so?! :-)

>
> > > AND because of conflict with aictc we should do something ASAP, to
> > > prove ourself in the action.
> >
> > Don't agree here. We are not the ones who should prove ourselves. They
> > are the ones who have won the money, and thus they are the ones which
> > should prove themselves. Sure, it would be nice to beat them, but I
> > personaly prefer to have a good and reliable distro, than one that
> > barely works. Even if it takes time, I think quality is more important
> > than time. Building a robust distro takes time Arash, it might ( as
> > Arash Z noted) take months to only do the R&D.
> >
> > Building something ASAP is certainly not in my list.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > PS: I am waiting on your report on Libranet, and CollegeLinux. Have you
> > guys tested these distros? What are your viewes?
> >
> > Cheers
>
> First of all thanks for sending them. A fast review, first impression based
> on our needs, not objective:
>
> - Libranet is quite interesting and a good ditro to go with. But uncertain
> licensing, no sources and hence no advantage compared with Debian.
> - College Linux: a strange mix of all distros available, but little
> innovation, no good package management and the installer is useless for
> our purpose.
> - Xandros: Looked promissing at first, but did keep little up to no
> promises made, apparently no GPL installer and not under active
> development, as far as I could tell. Very innovative and easy to install.
>
> Greetings,
> Arash