Re: [linuxiran] Xfree86 bug, and Behdad Esfahbod

[Arash Zeini]

I am working on KDE 3.2. I have almost completed the review of kdelibs and 
will continue with kdebase. 
How far I will go, I am not sure. But in general ArashB is correct. There 
has been very little contribution.

Greetings,
Arash

On Tuesday 13 January 2004 13:45, Aryan Ameri wrote:

> On Monday 12 January 2004 08:35, Arash Bijanzadeh wrote:
> > I am telling this is a KDE bug. It is not happening in gedit under
> > X4.3 and it is happening in KDE under X4.2.1;
>
> Umm, sorry I have a debian partition here, with KDE 3.1.4 and X 4.2, and
> this bug is not there.
>
> > I have told this
> > several times but you keep saying that it is a  X bug.
>
> Because I keep beleiving that it's a X bug.
>
> > I went through
> > 6 chapter of unicode to find the last one out  I took me 48 hours and
> > was a real torture!  I am working on a bug before reporting it or
> > saying something!
> >
> > I dont' care about this kiddy, what is really anoying is that nobody
> > moving his finger, All of linuxiran guys keep talking and talking and
> > talking! no move no translation no progress!
> > Example? You should have one a great deal of translation till now but
> > you did nothing! Why? Instead of watching the lord of the ring or
> > compiling kernel translating two string of KDE would be more useful
> > but less fun I should agree!
>
> Why should I lie? Last year as you know I was free for nearly 6 months,
> so I did a great deal of translation. Right now, I have a completely
> different situation. I don't have internet access in home, I don't have
> access to CVS (that little application of yours isn't able to check out
> the files) and I also can't properly type Farsi in Kbabel. These all
> have contributed to my lack of participation in FarsiKDE.
>
> And most important of all, it's about time. You have a working day-job
> which has enabled you to pay the bills, as well as contribute to open
> source. I don't. I am a student, with a limited financial budget,
> taking 6 courses every semester and trying to get an A in all of them,
> just because I need to get that scholarship. While I love FarsiKDE, It
> should be noted that I feel under no obligation to contribute to
> FarsiKDE.
>
> Still, I actualy planned on participating more on the translation side
> specially when I am in Iran. I don't have CVS, so I couldn't see how
> many commits and translations were done. But untill this email of
> yours, I had no knowlegde that "There is NO TRANSLATION, NO PROGRESS".
>
> > With the great knowledge of C++ that ArashP have he can fix this bug
> > of KDE, but he preefr to write a memory allocation sample! I really
> > could not understand it!
>
> How rude of you to think people have an obligation to participate. As a
> friendly note Arash, I advice you to reconsider this behaviour. You
> won't be a good Open Source manager like this.
>
> I think it has been an honour for us to have Arash P here with us. He
> has adviced us on many issues, and instead of insluting hime (although
> I have done that my self in the past) I look forward to learn from his
> experience. I have always found myself lucky to have had the
> opportunity to know this person.
>
> I look at Arash P, like the members of the fellowship look at Gandalf.
> He doesn't get involve in every little subject, but he is a great
> observer, and he sees the big picture, and from time to time, he gives
> you a little hint to set you on the right direction.
>
> Arash Bijanzadeh, my dear fellow friend, Open Source is about volountary
> cooperation. It doesn't work in a hostile environment that you are now
> trying to make.
>
> > Nobody else is working but platoali and he got to give up soon "ye
> > dast seda nadare" you know.
>
> I am sorry to hear that he is alone. I thought a couple of enthusiastic
> individuals were involved.
>
> > The bad news is that we missed kate bidi support in KDE3.2 too! There
> > was no feedback and interest in it and it could not be merged in the
> > head for 3.2   :-(
> >
> :-|
>
> Cheer up Pal.
>
> > On Sunday 11 January 2004 15:09, Aryan Ameri wrote:
> > > On Saturday 10 January 2004 11:54, Arash Bijanzadeh wrote:
> > > > I am afraid he is right on this one.
> > > > So please ignore it, and for gods sake vote http://bugs.kde.org/
> > > > show_bug.cgi?id=70986 and make this bug active,
> > >
> > > Arash,
> > >
> > > I know that it might not be related to xkb, and frankly I don't
> > > know what xfree86 component it is related to. But it is quite
> > > common for a bug reporter, not to know what specific component of a
> > > product the bug is related to. It is usually the task of Bugzilla
> > > maintainer to reassign the bug to the related component, not for a
> > > stranger to close it, saying that it is not related to 'foo'
> > > component.
> > >
> > > And while I have voted (20 points) for your bug on KDE, I have to
> > > agree with Arash Z in that I think it is a Xfree86 bug. The reason?
> > > KDE 3.1 using XFree 4.2 doesn't show this vertical line. It is IMHO
> > > a bug introduced in Xfree86 4.3
> > >
> > > > we are gonna loose
> > > > the proper farsi support because of this bug. Don't let'em to
> > > > laugh at us!
> > >
> > > Well, we have lost proper farsi support due to this bug, and I am
> > > not exaggerating when I say that this bug is the sole reason that
> > > has prohibited me from using KBabel, and translating KDE.
> > >
> > > And well, they are already laughing at us. Have you looked at
> > > Roozbeh P's weblog recently? he makes great fun of us, whenever he
> > > finds a spelling error in one of our bug reports.
> > >
> > > We two groups, haven't had a smooth relationship in the past, but
> > > still I assume that we do have some common goals, and while I don't
> > > expect them to help us in our problems, I at least expect them not
> > > to trow stones in our way.
> > >
> > > Or maybe that's a wrong assumption.
> > >
> > > But seriously, Arash, I think we should investigate this bug more
> > > thourouly, and determine really wether it is a KDE bug, or a
> > > XFree86 one. This bug is really serious.
> > >
> > > Cheers

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