Re: [Bug-gnubg] Bug in Windows version -- Tutor response window appears when not needed

[Billie Patterson]

Jim, 

One other thought about a possible change.

If I set "roll" to automatic in the option screen, that
should probably tell gnubg that I'm not interested in
doubling, and should set both Tutor "cube decisions" and
Cube "use doubling cube" to off.

Billie


--- Jim Segrave <address@hidden> wrote:
> On Mon 27 Jan 2003 (15:58 -0800), Billie Patterson wrote:
> > Jim,
> > 
> > Thanks for your explanation.  But if that's the case,
> it's
> > WAAAAYYY too subtle for a raw beginner like me.  I'm
> just
> > trying to figure out how to move the checkers without
> > making gross errors.
> 
> I know the feeling all too well.
>  
> > I have gnubg set to roll automatically, and the option
> to
> > use the doubling cube is OFF.  "Cube decisions" is
> turned
> > on in tutor options, but there's absolutely NOTHING on
> the
> > tutor  screen that appears that tells me the tutor is
> > trying to say something about a cube decision.
> 
> That's interesting (or more exactly, that's a bug)
> 
> > I'd like to see some change made here.  The way I see
> it,
> > there are several options:
> > 
> > 1)  If you set "Use doubling cube" off in the options,
> then
> > nothing ought to appear, ever, that has anything to do
> with
> > the doubling cube.
> 
> Yes - I'm commiting a fix for that right now. It's wrong
> - the code
> which checks for missed doubles in tutor mode assumed
> that the
> routines which check the equity of not doubling would not
> flag this as
> an error if the 'Use doubling cube' option is disabled.
> But it looks
> like these routines assume that they'd never be asked if
> it's off.
> 
> > 2)  If the tutor window is indeed trying to tell you
> > something about doubling, then it ought to say that. 
> After
> > all, it IS the tutor window, NOT the hint window.
> 
> I'm not sure I agree. The idea of tutor mode is to tell
> you when you
> are making a mistake before you have commited yourself to
> that
> play. For cube action, this point is when you click on
> the dice to
> start a roll - at that point, if you roll the dice, it's
> too late to
> double. 
> 
> I think you'll find that this becomes natural as you gain
> more
> experience. Having the tutor box pop up when you tell the
> program
> to roll the dice can only mean one thing - you should
> have
> doubled. I considered having the tutor mode not comment
> on missed
> doubles until you had rolled, seen the dice and selected
> a move, so
> that it would be less obvious what mistake the tutor mode
> was trying
> to point out, but I decided that might be a bit too
> confusing and/or
> annoying.
> 
> The other places where it comes up related to the
> doubling
> cube are equally obvious - if you take/pass a double
> which you should
> not/should have or if you did double when you shouldn't.
> 
> -- 
> Jim Segrave           address@hidden
> 


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