Re: [Bug-gnubg] gnubg - edit mode - how to choose bear off direction / tray

[Ian Shaw]

Glad you've finally sorted it.

You have to put the chequers on the board for the direction gnubg is set up to 
play. You can't put men on the 24-point and then tell gnubg that it should be 
the 1-point, and oh, these are the other guys men!

First set up the direction of play, then put your chequers on the board.
And yes, if you want to match colours up with you real board, then remember 
that Player 0 sits at the top, player 1 at the bottom.

You're behind in the race and relying on your outfield contain the last man.
Hit and cover with  7/5* 6/3 looks like it gets gammoned too often, and the 
reinforcements are far away.
You'ld like to stay back, but 6/1 wastes a valuable builder, which you must use 
to improve your board. 
I would play 6/3 14/12.

Cheers,
Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of sebalotek
Sent: 05 April 2013 15:40
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Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] gnubg - edit mode - how to choose bear off direction / 
tray


>> Are  you sure you have set up the position correctly?

I'm pretty sure the 'position' (with regard to checkers) is set up correctly. 
It's getting gnu to accept the 'direction' of real life play that's the 
problem. I've attached a photo of the live game I am trying to reproduce in 
gnu. 

http://old.nabble.com/file/p35258103/bg%2B04%2B2013-04-04%2B21.49.48.jpeg 

*The problem is, as red, moving anti-clockwise I can't find an easy way to make 
my bearing off area be the bottom right quadrant in gnu* 

>> You/Wayne (red) are the top player, moving clockwise to the top right. 
>> Bob (white) is the bottom player, moving anti-clockwise to the bottom 
>> right.

As I mentioned before, the colours are correct but the direction of movement is 
not.
>>>> > 2. I started from the top right (moving my pieces anti-clockwise)

>> Look at the pip count! Are both sides playing monster back games?
No we are not playing a monster backgame (would be interesting though!)

>> The chequers are arranged in a position that would be more commonly 
>> found if red were playing anti-clockwise to the bottom right.
That is correct - red is playing anti-clockwise.

>> I suspect you've entered the position incorrectly.
That is correct. At this stage the gamestate is not correct in gnu. My point is 
I am trying to find the right way to reproduce the gamestate and player 
perpective in the real-life photo. It doesn't seem to be a straightforward task 
with gnubg?

Thanks again for trying to help.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 05 April 2013 13:09
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Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] gnubg - edit mode - how to choose bear off direction / 
tray


>> The position posted shows White to play 3-2, not Red. 

Thanks again,

I'm pretty sure player turn has been set to be red. Red (me) has rolled 3-2 in 
the move list (move #4).

I've also attached a more detailed image of the GUI's red direction of play 
arrow indicator (circled next to the 1-point)

http://old.nabble.com/file/p35257366/position%2B05%2Bwrong%2Bred%2Bdirection.jpg
 

This shows the red bearing off quadrant is at the top right of the board I 
would like the red bearing off quadrant to be at the bottom right of the board 
instead, if this is possible in gnubg.

-- sl/w


Ian Shaw wrote:
> 
> The position posted shows White to play 3-2, not Red. That's why the 
> points are numbered from White's point of view.
> 
> To change who is on roll, click the small chequer icon next to the 
> players' names. Click the centre of the board to bring up the dice 
> selection window (assuming you have chosen manual dice).
> 
> -- Ian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf 
> Of sebalotek
> Sent: 05 April 2013 12:16
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> direction / tray
> 
> 
>>> You can select the direction of play at any time with the Direction 
>>> icon
> or, from the menu: View... Play Clockwise.
> 
> Many thanks for your input Ian - I did already try that. It only seems 
> to switch the 1 point between the *top* two corners. <screenshot below 
> in OP>
> 
> The situation I am trying to set up is
> 
> 1. I am red
> 2. I started from the top right (moving my pieces anti-clockwise) 2. 
> So I want to bear off in the *bottom right hand corner*
> 
> 
> Can anybody try to paste this position in their gnubg and see if they 
> can achieve this gamestate?
> 
> Position ID: EAA22zZg0MCONg
> 
> I (Sebalotek) have a 3-2 to play and my opponent (Bob) holds the cube 
> at 2
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of sebalotek
> Sent: 05 April 2013 08:25
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> Subject: [Bug-gnubg] gnubg - edit mode - how to choose bear off 
> direction / tray
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Please can anyone help?
> 
> Please see attached screenshot..
> 
> I'm red and I'm trying to work out how to choose to bear off my 
> checkers in the *bottom right tray* but I can't seem to find a way.
> Edit mode seems to only allow me to bear off at the top left or right?
> 
> The gnubg id is
> 
> Position ID: EAA22zZg0MCONg
> Match ID: AYFpAYAAUAAA
> 
> Many thanks for any light you can shed - it's probably me being really 
> dense! :)
> 
> sebalotek
> 
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