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Re: ifconfig: command not found


From: jbranso
Subject: Re: ifconfig: command not found
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2020 18:30:01 +0000

I once sent one of these critical/mean emails to this email list before too 
(sorry Samuel that my ire was once directed toward you.  I was being a complete 
little sh*t at the time).  

Jeffrey probably is just really interested in the project, and he probably let 
his enthusiasm carry him a bit away.  Jeffrey building/maintaining/developing 
an operating system is one of the *hardest* software challenges.  Most of the 
Hurd developers do it for fun and are not paid for their work.  If you find 
something that is not working, then great!  Please send a software patch our 
way!

You will probably get more help, if you speak gently and kindly.

Thanks,

Joshua

July 25, 2020 10:17 AM, "Samuel Thibault" <samuel.thibault@gnu.org> wrote:

> Jeffrey Walton, le sam. 25 juil. 2020 10:09:24 -0400, a ecrit:
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 9:45 AM Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@gnu.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Samuel Thibault, le sam. 25 juil. 2020 15:40:28 +0200, a ecrit:
>>> Also, distributions often have their own way of doing various things, so
>>> better follow their own documentation, for instance
>>> https://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install
>>> for Debian GNU/Hurd.
>> 
>> Meaning: the information about ifconfig is there for Debian GNU/Hurd
>> systems.
>> 
>> That page is absolute bullshit.
> 
> Calling names is not welcome.
> 
>> Who the hell names ifcofig something else (except Debian HURD).
>> Would the genius who made that decision like to step forward and claim
>> their Darwin award?
> 
> *Nobody* did.
> 
> I won't spend the time telling you the story behind it, since you don't
> even seem to possibly consider that it is not actually a decision, but a
> pending TODO.
> 
>> Stop wasting user's time and your time. I think HURD's standard ISO
>> should include https://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install, and
>> create a soft link from inetutils-ifconfig to ifconfig.
> 
> Stop wasting maintainers' time by calling them names, and actually help
> with what you'd like to see done.
> 
> Did you read the README file that was *next* to the ISO image? Which ISO
> image did you actually download? Don't expect maintainers to magically
> fix issues by just handwaving about them.
> 
> Samuel



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