Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto

[Frank Karlitschek]

On 21.01.2013, at 14:07, Melvin Carvalho <address@hidden> wrote:

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> On 21 January 2013 14:01, Frank Karlitschek <address@hidden> wrote:
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> On 21.01.2013, at 13:58, Melvin Carvalho <address@hidden> wrote:
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> > On 21 January 2013 13:43, Frank Karlitschek <address@hidden> wrote:
> > Hi,
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> > let's try to create a version 2 of the manifesto together. I created a 
> > draft 1 based on the feedback.
> > So What do you think?
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> > Frank
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> > --
> > User data manifesto V2 draft 1
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> > Changeslog:
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> > - Add a remark to 3. that it is recommended to have an own server for the 
> > personal data.
> > - Removed "open source" so that only "free software" is in point 8.
> > - Replaced "Invulnerability of data" with "Protect the data from loss"
> > - Replaced "own data" with "personal data"
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> > 1. Control the personal data
> > The data that someone directly or indirectly creates belongs to the person 
> > who created it.
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> > 2. Know where the data is stored
> > Everybody should be able to know: where their personal data is physically 
> > stored, how long, on which server, in what country, and what laws apply.
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> > 3. Choose the storage location
> > Everybody should always be able to migrate their personal data to a 
> > different provider, server or their own machine at any time without being 
> > locked in to a specific vendor. It is recommended to have the personal 
> > server for the personal data in the long term.
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> > It strikes me that this implies that all your data will be stored on one 
> > provider.  In practice I may wish to store my social chit chat on one 
> > server, my photos on another and my financial transactions on another.  
> > Would it be part of the manifesto to allow the user this level of 
> > granularity?
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> Hmm. It wasn't the idea to imply that all the data has to be on one place. We 
> should change the words if you think that this is the meaning of the 
> sentences.
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> Oh good!
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> Everybody should always be able to migrate personal data to a different 
> provider, server, or their own machine, at any time without being locked in 
> to a specific vendor. It is recommended to have a personal server for 
> personal data in the long term.
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Yes. I agree.

> ^^ couple of minor changes -- see what you think

What have you changed? Sorry can't find it at the moment.


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> > 4. Control access
> > Everybody should be able to know, choose and control who has access to 
> > their personal data to see or modify it.
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> > 5. Choose the conditions
> > If someone chooses to share their personal data, then the user selects the 
> > sharing license and conditions.
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> > 6. Protect the data from loss
> > Everybody should be able to protect their personal data against 
> > surveillance and to federate their personal data for backups to prevent 
> > data loss or for any other reason.
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> > 7. Use it optimally
> > Everybody should be able to access and use their personal data at all times 
> > with any device they choose and in the most convenient and easiest way for 
> > them.
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> > 8. Server software transparency
> > Server software should be free software so that the source code of the 
> > software can be inspected to confirm that it works as specified.
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> > --
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> > On 15.01.2013, at 17:03, Rich Hilliard <address@hidden> wrote:
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> > > if it allows rms to participate, I'm in favor.
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: Frank Karlitschek address@hidden
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:56 AM
> > > To: Rich Hilliard
> > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden
> > > Subject: Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto
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> > > O.K.
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> > > Let's try to do it by email. I hope it's O.K. if we use this mailinglist 
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > I will take the current text and merge all the discussed improvements in 
> > > and send it to the list as first draft. Then we can iterate until we have 
> > > something that works for everybody.
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> > > I will send something probably tomorrow.
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> > > I hope thats a good approach.
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> > > Frank
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> > > On 15.01.2013, at 16:34, "Rich Hilliard" <address@hidden> wrote:
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> > >> Email is fine with me; who has the current draft version?
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> > >> ________________________________________
> > >> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:42 PM
> > >> To: Frank Karlitschek
> > >> Cc: address@hidden
> > >> Subject: Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto
> > >>
> > >> I'd rather participate the way I have done thus far: by email.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Dr Richard Stallman
> > >> President, Free Software Foundation
> > >> 51 Franklin St
> > >> Boston MA 02110
> > >> USA
> > >> www.fsf.org  www.gnu.org
> > >> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
> > >> Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call
> > >>
> > >>
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