Re: [GNU/consensus] [RFC][SH] User Data Manifesto

[Frank Karlitschek]

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 17:34, Melvin Carvalho <address@hidden> wrote:
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> On 1 January 2013 at 01:17, hellekin (GNU Consensus) <address@hidden> wrote:
> http://userdatamanifesto.org/ proposes 8 points "defining basic rights
> for people to control their own data in the internet age"
> 
> I'd like to reach consensus on officially supporting this manifesto:
> 
> Resurrecting an old thread.  I've been pondering this for the last couple of 
> years, and I think I have worked out some basic common issues:
> 
> UDM 2.0 is a good start but it doesnt address the basic issues that we have.  
> ie we dont have data freedom, in a practical sense.  Even those loving free 
> software are not always offering data freedom.  Often we dont know what it 
> means, so let's teach people.
> 
> The general high level aim of data freedom is complete control over all your 
> data.  I divide it into two sections:
> 
> 1. Where it is stored
> 
> This is about the data being able to control where the data is stored and 
> perform operations on that data.
> 
> 1.1 The user can choose where the data is stored
> 
> 1.2 The user is free to view all their data.
> 
> 1.3 The user is free to modify all their data the way they want, including 
> adding arbitrary new fields, deleting anything existing
> 
> 1.4 The user is free to move their data, provided that they are responsible 
> for links to the old location
> 
> 
> 2. How the data is stored
> 
> 2.1 The user is entitled to share their data, including on a global scale
> 
> 2.2 The user can choose the format in which the data is stored (conforming to 
> common standards)
> 
> This is PARTICULARLY important.  The USER decides NOT the developer.
> 
> 2.3 The user is able to protect and privacy control their data, determining 
> exactly who sees what
> 
> 2.4 The user is entitled to notify other users when updates to their data 
> occurs
> 

I think this makes a lot of sense. The only ‘problem’ with this draft is that 
it is quite complex and detailed which doesn’t make it necessarily easier for 
users to fully understand.
A design goal of UDM2 was to have it really simple and easy to get.


> I think this is roughly what you need.  Take your own system and rate 
> yourself honestly on how well you do.  I noticed those that signed up to UDM 
> 2.0 didnt always pass the tests.
> 
> Too long have we been in a world were users have 90% freedom but cant get the 
> last most important bit of power out of their machines.  The problem now isnt 
> proprietary software, it's developer restrictions.  Let's open our eyes to 
> where we are failing.
> 
> I believe we've got a great system that ready to deliver data freedom on the 
> web, which should be a key strategic battle ground
> 
> https://github.com/solid/solid-spec

Yes. Very interesting. We at ownCloud are looking into ways to support this.

> 
> I spoke to frank (owncloud) last week, and I think there could be the basis 
> of collaboration on here.
> 
> But we need much more help, to make this happen.  Let's free people's data 
> and reclaim the internet!

Absolutely! Let’s see what we can do to collaborate!


Frank


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> hk
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> 1. Own the data
> The data that someone directly or indirectly creates belongs to the
> person who created it.
> 
> 2. Know where the data is stored
> Everybody should be able to know: where their personal data is
> physically stored, how long, on which server, in what country, and what
> laws apply.
> 
> 3. Choose the storage location
> Everybody should always be able to migrate their personal data to a
> different provider, server or their own machine at any time without
> being locked in to a specific vendor.
> 
> 4. Control access
> Everybody should be able to know, choose and control who has access to
> their own data to see or modify it.
> 
> 5. Choose the conditions
> If someone chooses to share their own data, then the owner of the data
> selects the sharing license and conditions.
> 
> 6. Invulnerability of data
> Everybody should be able to protect their own data against surveillance
> and to federate their own data for backups to prevent data loss or for
> any other reason.
> 
> 7. Use it optimally
> Everybody should be able to access and use their own data at all times
> with any device they choose and in the most convenient and easiest way
> for them.
> 
> 8. Server software transparency
> Server software should be free and open source software so that the
> source code of the software can be inspected to confirm that it works as
> specified.
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