Re: Can't Run Denemo AppImage on Ubuntu 22.04

[Richard Shann]

On Sat, 2022-11-19 at 09:33 +0100, gerard.nollez@free.fr wrote:
> I think you must not have understood when I said 
> "(I'm assuming that you are aware that it is almost true that any
> combination of key presses can be set as a shortcut for any command)"
> 
> OK,now I understand! It is easy to modify the shorcuts unsuitable fot
> my keyboard. As soon as it's done (it may take a little time),

yes, unfortunately it is a bit tedious, and to remove the unwanted
shortcuts a further step is needed: you right click on the command and
select "Open the Command Center on this command" then select the
unwanted shortcut and click Delete below it.

Richard


>  I'll send 
> you the Default.shortcuts file.
> Thanks a lot,
> Gérard
> 
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "Richard Shann" <richard@rshann.plus.com>
> À: "denemo-devel" <denemo-devel@gnu.org>
> Envoyé: Vendredi 18 Novembre 2022 17:22:43
> Objet: Re: Can't Run  Denemo AppImage on Ubuntu 22.04
> Now I understand
> On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 15:17 +0100, gerard.nollez@free.fr wrote:
> > I will try to be clear, but is it not so easy.
> > For instance to obtain a quarter note (noire) I have to type 2.
> You only *have* to type 2 if you not changed the shortcuts to suit
> your
> keyboard. 
> If you look in the menu you see that the command labelled:
> 
>  Insert/Append a 𝅝
> 
> this has, by default, the number 2 in blue italics next to it,
> meaning
> that the current shortcut for this command is whatever keypress
> combination you need to get a 2.
> This is not convenient on your keyboard, so hover over that menu item
> and press eacute (the key with a 2 on it) and you will see that
> eacute
> has been added as a short cut for this command.
> 
> I think you must not have understood when I said 
> "(I'm assuming that you are aware that it is almost true that any
> combination of key presses can be set as a shortcut for any command)"
> 
> If you do go through all the commands that have shortcuts that are
> inconvenient on your keyboard and replace them with more convenient
> ones then please post the shortcuts file to the list so that it can
> be
> added to the Denemo distribution. 
> (The file is called "Default.shortcuts" and will be found under your
> home directory - ask if you cannot find it with a search).
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Richard
> BTW please use "Group Reply" or "Reply to All" so that those
> searching
> the mailing list archives can follow the thread.
> 
> > 
> > azerty keyboard, french, a key with double function é and  (shift)
> > 2
> > result: é ==> eacute is not a shortcut
> >         (shift) 2 ==> shift + eacute is not a shortcut
> > 
> > azerty keyboard, US, a key with double function 2 and (shift)@
> > result: 2 ==> eacute is not a shorcut
> >        (shift)@ ==> shift + eacute is not a shortcut
> > Denemo react as with the "french" keyboard !!
> > 
> > The same with other note durations,1,3,4 etc...
> > 
> > Note pitch.
> > "french" keyboard: a,b,c, d, e, f ,g OK
> > "US" keyboard: to obtain the note a (la) I have to press a, whereas
> > I
> > should press "q" with this keyboard.
> > 
> > And so on...
> > 
> > Gérard
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Mail original -----
> > De: "Richard Shann" <richard@rshann.plus.com>
> > À: "gerard" <gerard.nollez@free.fr>
> > Envoyé: Vendredi 18 Novembre 2022 11:42:20
> > Objet: Re: Can't Run  Denemo AppImage on Ubuntu 22.04
> > 
> > On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 11:18 +0100, gerard.nollez@free.fr wrote:
> > > > I can no more run my denemo_2.2.x.AppImage on Ubuntu 22.04 ( a
> > > > specially taylored version
> > > > > version of Denemo or version of Ubuntu?
> > > 
> > > version of Denemo !
> > > 
> > > > > have you thought of using the flatpak version?
> > > 
> > > Yes, it works, but with the same problems of keyboard as before:
> > > my
> > > Dell PC is with azerty keyboard, and typing on the keyboard
> > > (either
> > > in french or english option) give unexpected results in Denemo.
> > 
> > It might be much easier to fix Denemo to work well with your
> > keyboard
> > as well as others. (I'm assuming that you are aware that it is
> > almost
> > true that any combination of key presses can be set as a shortcut
> > for
> > any command).
> > A less well known thing is that (roughtly, as I understand it) the
> > physical keyboards only differ by what is painted on the key tops.
> > The
> > different responses you get are caused by the operating
> > system/window
> > manager. But it isn't practical to switch between "locale"s...
> > Perhaps you could give an example of a difficulty you have with
> > using
> > Denemo from your azerty locale?
> > 
> > 
> > Richard