Re: Can't Run Denemo AppImage on Ubuntu 22.04

[gerard . nollez]

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De: "gerard" <gerard.nollez@free.fr>
À: "Richard Shann" <richard@rshann.plus.com>
Cc: "denemo-devel" <denemo-devel@gnu.org>
Envoyé: Samedi 19 Novembre 2022 09:33:33
Objet: Re: Can't Run  Denemo AppImage on Ubuntu 22.04

I think you must not have understood when I said 
"(I'm assuming that you are aware that it is almost true that any
combination of key presses can be set as a shortcut for any command)"

OK,now I understand! It is easy to modify the shorcuts unsuitable fot my 
keyboard. As soon as it's done (it may take a little time), I'll send 
you the Default.shortcuts file.
Thanks a lot,
Gérard

----- Mail original -----
De: "Richard Shann" <richard@rshann.plus.com>
À: "denemo-devel" <denemo-devel@gnu.org>
Envoyé: Vendredi 18 Novembre 2022 17:22:43
Objet: Re: Can't Run  Denemo AppImage on Ubuntu 22.04
Now I understand
On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 15:17 +0100, gerard.nollez@free.fr wrote:
> I will try to be clear, but is it not so easy.
> For instance to obtain a quarter note (noire) I have to type 2.
You only *have* to type 2 if you not changed the shortcuts to suit your
keyboard. 
If you look in the menu you see that the command labelled:

 Insert/Append a 𝅝

this has, by default, the number 2 in blue italics next to it, meaning
that the current shortcut for this command is whatever keypress
combination you need to get a 2.
This is not convenient on your keyboard, so hover over that menu item
and press eacute (the key with a 2 on it) and you will see that eacute
has been added as a short cut for this command.

I think you must not have understood when I said 
"(I'm assuming that you are aware that it is almost true that any
combination of key presses can be set as a shortcut for any command)"

If you do go through all the commands that have shortcuts that are
inconvenient on your keyboard and replace them with more convenient
ones then please post the shortcuts file to the list so that it can be
added to the Denemo distribution. 
(The file is called "Default.shortcuts" and will be found under your
home directory - ask if you cannot find it with a search).

HTH,

Richard
BTW please use "Group Reply" or "Reply to All" so that those searching
the mailing list archives can follow the thread.

> 
> azerty keyboard, french, a key with double function é and  (shift) 2
> result: é ==> eacute is not a shortcut
>         (shift) 2 ==> shift + eacute is not a shortcut
> 
> azerty keyboard, US, a key with double function 2 and (shift)@
> result: 2 ==> eacute is not a shorcut
>        (shift)@ ==> shift + eacute is not a shortcut
> Denemo react as with the "french" keyboard !!
> 
> The same with other note durations,1,3,4 etc...
> 
> Note pitch.
> "french" keyboard: a,b,c, d, e, f ,g OK
> "US" keyboard: to obtain the note a (la) I have to press a, whereas I
> should press "q" with this keyboard.
> 
> And so on...
> 
> Gérard
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "Richard Shann" <richard@rshann.plus.com>
> À: "gerard" <gerard.nollez@free.fr>
> Envoyé: Vendredi 18 Novembre 2022 11:42:20
> Objet: Re: Can't Run  Denemo AppImage on Ubuntu 22.04
> 
> On Fri, 2022-11-18 at 11:18 +0100, gerard.nollez@free.fr wrote:
> > > I can no more run my denemo_2.2.x.AppImage on Ubuntu 22.04 ( a
> > > specially taylored version
> > > > version of Denemo or version of Ubuntu?
> > 
> > version of Denemo !
> > 
> > > > have you thought of using the flatpak version?
> > 
> > Yes, it works, but with the same problems of keyboard as before: my
> > Dell PC is with azerty keyboard, and typing on the keyboard (either
> > in french or english option) give unexpected results in Denemo.
> 
> It might be much easier to fix Denemo to work well with your keyboard
> as well as others. (I'm assuming that you are aware that it is almost
> true that any combination of key presses can be set as a shortcut for
> any command).
> A less well known thing is that (roughtly, as I understand it) the
> physical keyboards only differ by what is painted on the key tops.
> The
> different responses you get are caused by the operating system/window
> manager. But it isn't practical to switch between "locale"s...
> Perhaps you could give an example of a difficulty you have with using
> Denemo from your azerty locale?
> 
> 
> Richard