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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Salon article -- off topic


From: Dewayne Hendricks
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Salon article -- off topic
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:35:27 -0800

[Note: David Reed is not on this list and he has asked me to forward to the list his comments on Steve Schear's recent post. DLH]

At 6:43 -0800 3/13/03, David P. Reed wrote:
From: "David P. Reed" <address@hidden>
To: Dewayne Hendricks <address@hidden>, Steve Schear <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Salon article -- off topic
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 06:43:16 -0800
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At 05:33 AM 3/13/2003 -0800, Steve Schear wrote:
David Reed's physics is not strictly correct. He maintains that "Photons in free space act almost exclusively as waves. Therefore, when they cross paths they merely set up an interference pattern for the very brief time of their interaction. No energy is exchanged and the quantum state of each photon is unchanged after they pass each other."

Steve, Dewayne -

I never said this.  (and I wouldn't have)

Here's what I said in my mail:

Steve - of course you are right that when two photons interact with an electron they can produce other photons with surprising behaviors.

We see these interactions every day. That is how signals interact inside antennas. (which are seas of electrons). That is how signals reflect and refract. You can get frequency doubling, you can get tropospheric tunneling, etc.

QED explains everything about radio, in theory, and it is remarkably precise. and predictive. It's one of the most well established parts of science.

Two photons don't create a momentary interference pattern when they "cross paths". Unless they are the *same* identical photon, they don't interact at all (and of course the concept of a photon interacting with itself is a manifestation of wave-like behavior of the probability amplitudes). If, however, the photons interact with the same electron, which is possible, their probability amplitudes get entangled, which can lead to interference patterns. Take the electron away and there is no interference pattern.

I make this point only because I do know a lot of physics, and your "quote" above makes me sound (at least to a physicist) a bit clueless. My credibility is pretty important in this case, especially since I'm mostly talking to folks with little or no physics or information theory, who are sure they know how radios work and how they interfere from the simplified little diagrams that teach a little about amplitude modulation and stop there.

I don't participate in the gnu radio discussion list, because I just don't have the time needed. But if there's a way to get this corrected, I'd appreciate it.




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