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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gr-lte vs gr::digital::ofdm*


From: Johannes Demel
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] gr-lte vs gr::digital::ofdm*
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:15:46 +0200
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Hey Doug,

there are a few differences between gr-ofdm and gr-lte. When I started
the project, gr-ofdm wasn't available. Later on I tried to use an API
as similar as possible to gr-ofdm. Though, gr-lte is designed for FDD
mode. That being said, it is quite a difference to gr-ofdm which is
primarily designed for bursty transmissions.
Also the LTE standard includes a few tricky parts. Those include
different CP lengths in every slot, different sync symbols which carry
further system information and dependencies between those parts. e.g.
you need to detect the correct PSS symbol first in order to be able to
do anything useful with the SSS. Also, there are always 2 different
SSS symbols depending on the position within each frame. And their
position in a frame is not right at the beginning of a frame.
If you have specific questions about parts of the flowgraph, just ask.

Cheers
Johannes

On 24.06.2015 18:07, Martin Braun wrote:
> On 24.06.2015 08:48, Anderson, Douglas J. wrote:
>> Lately I've been working with gr-lte and trying to use some of
>> those blocks in my own application (not grc).
>> 
>> I'm still in the learning phase about ofdm/lte, and I'm
>> struggling with the lack of documentation or comments in gr-lte.
>> 
>> I think I would prefer to use GNU Radio's built-in OFDM blocks
>> for time/freq sync, CP removal, etc, and then lean on gr-lte
>> blocks for decode/unpack operations.
>> 
>> My question is, is that practical? gr-lte uses a flowgraph like:
>> 
>> source -> cp-based timing sync -> lte PSS sync -> cp-based freq
>> sync -> LTE SSS sync -> lte esimator -> decode stuff...
>> 
>> Are the gr::digital::ofdm* blocks too generic to understand
>> things like LTE's primary and secondary sync symbols?
> 
> Hi Doug,
> 
> that's a big part of it. However, another part was that Johannes
> was writing gr-lte while the OFDM subsystem was still maturing. I'm
> sure at this point we could achieve more synergy between the
> projects.
> 
> Johannes hopefully has more insight he can provide.
> 
> Cheers, M
> 
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