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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Multi-rtl - making multi-channel receiver out of


From: Marcus D. Leech
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Multi-rtl - making multi-channel receiver out of multiple RTL-SDR dongles
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 21:31:21 -0400
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On 06/25/2016 04:25 PM, Piotr Krysik wrote:
W dniu 25.06.2016 o 01:56, Marcus D. Leech pisze:
On 05/26/2016 04:09 AM, Piotr Krysik wrote:
Is there some good candidate that can be asked to do that? When I search
for rtlsdr driver the first page with actual source code is osmocom's
site:

sdr.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/rtl-sdr

Maybe they have the maintainer who feels responsible for how this code
works?
I can try to correct this offset in software (especially if it doesn't
change too often) but it doesn't seem as the optimal solution. Frequency
offset estimation might not be perfect either.

--
Piotr
Peter East has been playing with stuff as well, although his website
has been suffering from the "Slashdot Effect(tm)" since RTL-SDR blog
   pointed to his paper a couple of days ago.  Now, he does all his
stuff post-facto, rather than in real-time, but i don't see why there
   couldn't be two stages of 'sync' state in your code--one to do time
synchronization, the other to do frequency-offset estimation based on
   the phase of the cross-correlation after time sync.    The residual
frequency offset (which shows up as a phase walk) is, according to
   Peter, always some small multiple of about 0.072Hz--he measures the
slope of the cross-correlation a few thousand samples apart, and
   uses that to estimate the frequency offset.   That works well.

Ideally, yes, you just want the hardware to behave correctly--and for
the standard drivers to take care of this.  But doing this in your
   multi-rtl block isn't a lot of extra work, and it means you get no
residual phase-walk whether dither is turned on or off.

Hi Marcus,

If it is possible to do estimate this frequency offset correctly (better
than one would expect from normal measurement thanks to some a-priori
knowledge like ~0.072Hz granularity that as you said might be there) - I
can live with additional step. What might be possibly harder for me to
swallow is if the estimated value of frequency offset has some error
that may be avoided if one patches rtl-sdr driver to include the changes
mentioned by you before.

Thanks for pointing to Peter's East work - I will try to experiment with it.

Best Regards,
Piotr Krysik

OK, now I've got people excited about building phased arrays.

I suspect that the existing block will get awkward to use after about 8 inputs. I wonder if there's a re-org of the input parameters that could make it less awkward? Like having the device args all in one line, having a "General" and "RF Parameters" tab, etc.






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