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Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?)
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Jason Clouse |
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Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?) |
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Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:09:50 -0400 |
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 02:27:28 -0400 Jeff Teunissen <deek@d2dc.net> writes:
<<GNUstep cannot ride Mac OS X's coat-tails and still be a good thing. If
GNUstep cannot stand on its own, it does not deserve to stand at all.
That said, it *can* stand on its own, and it *can* attract developers
based on its own merits, not because it's a clone of Cocoa.>>
It can stand on its own technically but it cannot stand on its own
practically. It has technical merit but very little practical merit for
many people. Their thinking is:
"Gnome, KDE, Windows, OS X, or even libcurses seem to be doing the job
for me; why should I write applications for GNUstep? I'd have to learn a
new language, and there doesn't seem to be much going on there anyway."
For some reason, though Objective-C is not a difficult language to learn,
it's a big hurdle. Mac OS X, because of it's flashy (though, in my
opinion, distracting) GUI, has drawn a lot of developers. In the
process, they have discovered Objective-C and Cocoa. With a little bit
of encouragement, I think they could become interested in GNUstep as
well. There would have to be a carrot to dangle, however. As you say,
simply being a clone is useless. Offering easy portability, a similar
development environment to what they're used to with OS X, and for the
politically conscious, a truly Libre environment, could be a useful
tactic in raising interest. Even if only a handful of them became
interested, it would still be better than none of them becoming
interested.
I know that Apple and other companies have patents that make complete
portability impossible. But there are certainly some things that can be
done. When I read your original post, I assumed that you were proposing
that any kind of effort for compatibility between GNUstep and Cocoa
should be eschewed. If I was wrong, please correct me. I think that
would be a terrible position to take.
<<It also doesn't help that most of the very things that make OS X
attractive to developers (like QuickTime, for example) can't become
available on GNUstep.>>
I know that the QuickTime thing really sucks and all. But are people
really flocking to OS X just to be able to write applications that employ
QuickTime? I could see that for multimedia players and so forth but....
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- Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?), (continued)
- Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?), Jason Clouse, 2002/09/23
- Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?), Jason Clouse, 2002/09/23
- Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?), Jason Clouse, 2002/09/23
- Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?), Jason Clouse, 2002/09/23
- Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?), Jason Clouse, 2002/09/23
- Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?), Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf, 2002/09/23
- Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?),
Jason Clouse <=
- Re: The Path of GNUstep (Was: Re: Gnustep + mac + windows? Possible?), Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf, 2002/09/25