Re: project goal Re: Release schedule

[Boudewijn Rempt]

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On Thursday 17 April 2003 01:52, Yen-Ju Chen wrote:
>   I would suggest you to check the wiki.gnustep.org.
>   It has more updated information such as tutorials, applications.
>   GNUstep still changes, especially gui/back.
>   Therefore, if the applications is not actively maintained,
>   it tends to break after a certain time.

That's not so surprising; but as a simple 

>
>   I think GNUstep is more close to GTK/Qt, not GNOME/KDE.

On the other hand, GNUstep apps demand certain services, like the pastboard
server, the interapp communication thingy, the font cache, the config 
mechanism. And GNUstep apps provide services to each other. That seems to me 
to indicate that it's more than just a GUI/utility toolkit like GTK or Qt.

>   People won't ask GTK to offer a file manager, or a mail agent
>   because it is a developement environment.
>   GNOME/KDE makes GTK/Qt popular,

And if it were possible to use GNUstep apps to construct a desktop environment 
that's as integrated as OS X or nextstep, then it might become popular. But 
as a crossplatform app development toolkit it fails because the applications 
demand more than just the lib and the app: they need a whole environment to 
thrive. Possibly that environment already exists on OS X, but not on Unix, 
nor on Windows. GNUMail under KDE, Windows or even TWM sticks out like a sore 
thumb.

>   but GKT/Qt exists not only for GNOME/KDE.
>   So comparing GNUstep to GNOME/KDE  is
>   comparing banana to apple.
>   There is no GNUstep desktop environment yet.
>   So if you can't find the application you want,
>   you can write one. :)
>
>   Check the news in wiki.gnustep.org.
>   The latest released applications tends to work better.
>   Gorm works pretty good for me.
>   It crashes as often as mozilla, fewer than Giam. :D
>

Gorm crashes on me when I try to follow the simplest of tutorials. Mozilla has 
never crashed on me in the last two years. And I cannot find a bugzilla or 
something like that on gnustep.org to fill in bugs.

>   Just my personal opinion.
>
>   Yen-Ju
>
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