Re: Install gnustep-base standalone

[Helge Hess]

On 25. Apr 2005, at 18:27 Uhr, dieymir wrote:
> It's a bit inmature if you compare it with gnustep-base, you have
> listed some of the caveats in TODO,

Ah, OK, so you mean "incomplete wrt OpenStep Foundation API". Yes, 
thats right and we do not target for that.
Having said that I don't think that libFoundation is "inmature" 
compared to gnustep-base. The latter just has more stuff in it.

> incomplete UTF support (not a problem for me) in NSString,

Yup. I think this is the only thing we really consider missing (but not 
a problem for most, as you note ;-)

> some classes unimplemented or not complete

Unimplemented classes should be removed.
I'm not aware of incomplete ones.

> more testing needed

Which part requires more testing? libFoundation is very well tested.

> I think that you need to make libFoundation more publicly available.

Personally I would prefer that gnustep-base evolves into a state so 
that it can be used for non-GNUstep development (eg no GNUstep.sh, 
proper integration into Unix/Windows).

I definitely would like to drop lF once gstep-base is a suitable 
replacement.

> If you go to its project page:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/libfoundation
> You'll find there version 0.9.0 February 1999, in fact I thought that
> the project has been abandoned until someone pointed me to OGo, where
> after some searching I was able to find the download of version 1.0.72
> (I think this is the current one).

Yes, we tend to promote gstep-base instead of libFoundation :-)

> In fact I'm very interesting in libFoundation because I want to
> program in Objective-C and any modern OO language needs an utility
> library like C++ STL or Java API to be completely useful, I think that
> the lack of such thing makes lot of harm to ObjC. gnustep-base has the
> problem that it's very integrated in the GNUstep environment and it's
> not intended to be used standalone like any other library you can link
> and this is what I like about libFoundation.

I'm not entirely sure I get your point. IMHO you map "incomplete wrt 
OpenStep" to "immature". The latter certainly does not hold true for 
lF.

Greets,
  Helge
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