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Re: substitute-in-file-name and "$"
From: |
Luc Teirlinck |
Subject: |
Re: substitute-in-file-name and "$" |
Date: |
Sat, 5 Jul 2003 18:58:21 -0500 (CDT) |
Michael Albinus wrote:
At least the examples in the Elisp manual give the feeling that
substitute-in-file-name could be called without special attention. The
trap with the "$" char isn't obvious.
None of the examples in the Elisp manual, (elisp)File Name Expansion,
involves Elisp variables. Even when working with variables, it would
seem that you can call (substitute-in-file-name filename) 1001 times
without danger (it has no side effects). Danger arises from stuff
like:
1. (setq filename (substitute-in-file-name filename))
or
2. (my-favorite-file-function (substitute-in-file-name filename))
The Elisp manual could point out that (1) should only be done if the
user really knows what he is doing. Usually, using the return value
of (substitute-in-file-name filename) only at the time it is actually
needed (and _not_ changing filename itself at that time) or doing:
(1b) (setq substituted-filename (substitute-in-file-name filename))
will be safer.
In as far as (2) is concerned, the documentation string of
`my-favorite-file-function' should clearly point out what operations
it is going to perform on filename. If not, that is a bug in the
documentation string. In that case, the Elisp user could try to
figure it out by experimentation and file a bug report. If
`my-favorite-file-function' is going to pass filename on to other
functions it calls, it should exercise a similar care itself.
And, btw, if substitute-in-file-name can be called only once, how do I
know it where to perform this call? And what shall the others do, if
they would like to perform substitute-in-file-name? Requote "$"? Or
apply an optional parameter (to be introduced), which forces this?
Do you have examples where there is a real need to do (1) instead of
(1b)? I have a hard time thinking of examples in the abstract, let
alone of examples occurring in actual situations. Unquoting and then
requoting seems like a senseless circular operation to me.
Sincerely,
Luc.
- substitute-in-file-name and "$", Michael Albinus, 2003/07/05
- Re: substitute-in-file-name and "$", Luc Teirlinck, 2003/07/05
- Re: substitute-in-file-name and "$", Michael Albinus, 2003/07/05
- Re: substitute-in-file-name and "$", Michael Albinus, 2003/07/06
- Re: substitute-in-file-name and "$", Luc Teirlinck, 2003/07/06
- Re: substitute-in-file-name and "$", Kai Großjohann, 2003/07/06
- Re: substitute-in-file-name and "$", Michael Albinus, 2003/07/07
- Re: substitute-in-file-name and "$", Miles Bader, 2003/07/05
- Re: substitute-in-file-name and "$", Kim F. Storm, 2003/07/06
- Re: substitute-in-file-name and "$", Michael Albinus, 2003/07/06
- Re: substitute-in-file-name and "$", Stefan Monnier, 2003/07/06