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Re: Post-22.1 development?
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Nick Roberts |
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Re: Post-22.1 development? |
Date: |
Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:18:36 +1200 |
> I have recently experienced similar "integration with a modern
> desktop environment" on Mac OS X, where we have the choice
> between standard Carbon Emacs and Aquamacs, which tries to behave
> more like other Mac applications. As a longtime Emacs user on
> many platforms, I find Aquamacs highly unpleasant. Many of its
> "enhancements," like widespread use of variable-width fonts,
> color themes, and pop-up frames, are counterproductive.
When there is choice I don't see how they can be counterproductive;
presumably you can just use Carbon Emacs.
> I already have a number of lines in my .emacs disabling various
> bits of modernization (e.g. tooltip-mode, tool-bar-mode,
> blink-cursor-mode, enormous fringes on both sides),
Enormous is an exaggeration - they're one character wide - and since
you _can_ disable them I see no problem. I don't see these features
simply as modernisation. I find the toolbar useful for debugging and
the fringe displays breakpoint icons. I imagine other people have other
uses for them.
> and expect
> that acceding to Gnome's wishes would just add to this list.
> Emacs has its own ways of doing things, and some of us prefer
> them, and believe they are better than more "modern"
> alternatives. There are many clear improvements available in
> modern environments, such as the option of having anti-aliased
> fonts. But I urge the Emacs developers to be wary of making
> changes simply because they make Emacs more "modern," and to
> continue to make it possible to disable such changes.
I think a bit of flexibility is needed on both sides. This could get
blown up out of proportion, but I think it should really be a small
issue.
--
Nick http://www.inet.net.nz/~nickrob
- Re: Post-22.1 development?, (continued)
- Re: Post-22.1 development?, Richard Stallman, 2007/06/09
- Re: Post-22.1 development?, Jan Djärv, 2007/06/10
- Re: Post-22.1 development?, Richard Stallman, 2007/06/09
- Re: Post-22.1 development?, Richard Stallman, 2007/06/08
- Re: Post-22.1 development?, Nick Roberts, 2007/06/08
- Re: Post-22.1 development?, Sean O'Rourke, 2007/06/07
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- Re: 48 line console [was Re: Post-22.1 development]?, Alan Mackenzie, 2007/06/08
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