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Re: authinfo gnutls netrc.el auth-sources & smtpmail-starttls-credential
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MON KEY |
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Re: authinfo gnutls netrc.el auth-sources & smtpmail-starttls-credentials |
Date: |
Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:05:04 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) |
Ted Zlatanov <address@hidden> writes:
> I appreciate your suggestions very much. I am just asking you to
No problem. Gladly.
> present them in a way that I can understand more readily. From looking
This might be a problem.
> at the stream of Emacs bug reports for a while, most people can submit
> verbal explanations just fine, using code to support but not replace
I find that hard to believe. Does D. Armstrong have an 800#?
I'll consider leaving a message next time :P
> them. For reference, here's what M-x report-emacs-bug suggests:
This is not of itself a bug.
> Sure, let's hope whoever does will write a patch or explain it better.
Sure. why not.
> All right. Please use e-mail next time, so you can be clear in what
> you're reporting. It would have saved time, and is the standard way to
> report security issues.
See, as you say the issue at hand isn't of itself a bug.
Ted, this 'time thing' is an entity of your concern and one to which I
don't subscribe.
Another possible approach might be not trying to save time by assuming
you know the answer before you understand the question.
> Your cleanup sets auth-sources to nil. That would screw up my setup, at
No.
Your setup would've been screwed when you failed to save state or
open a second session should that have been your primary concern.
Setting auth-sources to nil was right proper and polite thing to do
given the context.
> least. It's definitely not OK to just evaluate it; there were many
As you say. Not OK.
> other issues I don't have time to list and which are not really
If you knew Time as well as I do you wouldn't talk about wasting IT.
It's HIM.
> The patch is against Emacs CVS. Let me know what you think.
Yes.
> MK> Is it reasonable for an hypothetical 'average Emacs user' to expect to
> MK> reliably debug/troubleshoot and configure an auth-source initiated
> MK> transaction config using the current 'auth regime' and expect a safe,
> MK> transparent, self cleaning, logging facility to aid in the process?
> Sure.
There you have it.
> Now, what are you suggesting should be changed or improved?
Please see my post elsewhere on this thread vis a vis imap.el
> Can you give a specific example illustrating these problems, so I can
I have.
s_P
RE: authinfo gnutls netrc.el auth-sources & smtpmail-starttls-credentials, MON KEY, 2009/06/12