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Re: Periodical releases
From: |
Carsten Mattner |
Subject: |
Re: Periodical releases |
Date: |
Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:23:09 +0100 |
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Drew Adams <address@hidden> wrote:
>> Don't wait until "perfection" and release trunk more often
>> with bug releases if needed.
>
> No, no, no, please. Just the opposite.
> Bake Emacs _more_ fully before releasing it.
>
> Get it right. Document it well. Mention all user-visible changes in NEWS.
> Fix
> outstanding bugs.
>
> Richard had exactly the right approach to releasing Emacs, IMO. He was
> attacked
> by some because they felt the release cycle was too short. I, for one,
> appreciated his thoroughness and insistence on high quality.
>
>> Emacs trunk has never been unstable for me.
>
> Oh. So please continue to use the trunk.
>
> It's been quite unstable (not to mention incomplete) at various times for
> others; believe me. And that's been true forever. It's normal. To expect
> anything else is naive, IMHO.
>
>> I'm even using the NS port and it's still stable.
>
> So please continue to use it.
>
>> I would have less of a need to build emacs manually if
>> there were more release and therefore standard emacs
>> Linux distros was more up to date.
>
> The problem you raise here is apparently one of the difficulty/nuisance of
> building Emacs. It is not about how often to publish releases.
>
> Publishing non-release MS Windows binaries periodically has been _very_
> helpful
> (thank you again to those who have created and posted the builds). At least
> on
> that platform, that is a solution to the problem you raise.
>
> If the same cannot be done for other platforms then the solution would be to
> somehow simplify the difficulty/nuisance of building Emacs on those platforms.
>
> But in no case should that difficulty/nuisance of building be an excuse for
> releasing the product before it is fully baked.
I don't mind building my emacs.
It's a nuisance to have years old Emacs version in distributions.
To get a less buggy Emacs a better approach is releasing it
more often so that there are more testers who wouldn't even consider
building manually or install a prebuilt snapshot from trunk.
- Re: Periodical releases, (continued)
- Re: Periodical releases, Carsten Mattner, 2012/01/02
- Re: Periodical releases, Eli Zaretskii, 2012/01/02
- Re: Periodical releases, Carsten Mattner, 2012/01/02
- Re: Periodical releases, Eli Zaretskii, 2012/01/02
- RE: Periodical releases, Drew Adams, 2012/01/02
- Re: Periodical releases, chad, 2012/01/02
- Re: Periodical releases, Carsten Mattner, 2012/01/02
- Re: Periodical releases, Eric Schulte, 2012/01/02
- Re: Periodical releases, Carsten Mattner, 2012/01/02
- Re: Periodical releases, Lluís, 2012/01/02
- Re: Periodical releases,
Carsten Mattner <=
- RE: Periodical releases, Drew Adams, 2012/01/02
- Re: Periodical releases, Carsten Mattner, 2012/01/02
- Re: Periodical releases, Dave Abrahams, 2012/01/04
- Re: Periodical releases, Chong Yidong, 2012/01/04
- Re: Periodical releases, Dave Abrahams, 2012/01/04
- Re: Periodical releases, Óscar Fuentes, 2012/01/04
- Re: Periodical releases, Eli Zaretskii, 2012/01/05
- Re: Periodical releases, Dave Abrahams, 2012/01/05
- Re: Periodical releases, Bastien, 2012/01/05
- Re: Periodical releases, Leo, 2012/01/05