Re: [cedet-eieio] Cleaning up the EIEIO namespace

[David Engster]

Stefan Monnier writes:
>> setf is part of cl, and couldn't be used at runtime, so I mocked
>> up the behavior with something matching aref/aset instead.
>
> Actually, there's a misunderstanding here:
> - setf was indeed part of CL, but being a macro it was accepted
>   (i.e. you don't need to have it defined at run-time, since it's
>   macro-expanded during compilation).
> - setf is part of core Elisp in Emacs-24.3.
> So maybe we don't need oref/oset at all.

Yes, although I like "(oset foo bar 'baz)" much better than the verbose

(setf (cl-slot-value foo 'bar) 'baz)

But I can understand that you want to get rid of it, and package writers
can still define their own macros/accessors.

Our problem on the CEDET side is that we want to stay compatible with
older Emacsen, so we'll need some compat package.

> We could even justify the "cl-" prefix by making cl-lib autoload
> `cl-slot-value' from eieio.el.  Or use the "eieio-" prefix everywhere
> in eieio*.el and then define "cl-" aliases in cl-lib.el.

Doesn't that mean that requiring cl-lib would load the full EIEIO
package?

-David