Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Óscar Fuentes <address@hidden>
> Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 21:28:24 +0100
> 
> John Wiegley <address@hidden> writes:
> 
> >> The ChangeLog is useful for some of us. But I would contend that its
> >> usefulness doesn't trump all the contributors we have discouraged by
> >> insisting on our quite singular submission format.
> 
> ChangeLogs also have a big impact when long-lived branches need to be
> merged, and IIRC are a major pain for external projects that
> periodically merge with Emacs (org).

With or without git-merge-changelog installed?  With it the problems
should be minimal or non-existent, IME.

> >   - First, and most importantly, we have significant contributors who rely 
> > on
> >     and enjoy the ChangeLog file -- even if there are others, and potential
> >     contributors, who dislike it.
> >
> >     If people doing the "real work" are using this file, we should
> >     keep it.
> 
> Why not explore the possibility of giving the information they want from
> the VC system? As I see this issue, the ChangeLog is seen as
> indispensable by those who don't know how to use Git. We can ask them
> about their requirements and try to provide the necessary Emacs
> commands.

Using Git is not a problem for me.  The problem is that the
information in Git log is unreliable.  The other problem is that will
never succeed in teaching new contributors how to make good log
messages unless we have an easy way of fixing mistakes there.