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Re: Preview: portable dumper
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Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: Preview: portable dumper |
Date: |
Sat, 03 Dec 2016 00:06:21 +0200 |
> From: Karl Fogel <address@hidden>
> Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 14:11:23 -0600
>
> Following up to what John said, with a perspective that may be useful to Eli:
Thanks, but it isn't useful. Why? because, like John, you don't think
that my opinion about the preferred solution to getting rid of unexec
is right.
What would be useful is a perspective from someone who understands the
issues and agrees with me about the preferred solution. Because only
such a person can see the dilemma through my eyes, and only that
person can find the right words.
> When I was in a position similar to yours (one of a small group of core
> co-maintainers, in the Subversion project), there were a few occasions when a
> major technical decision went in a direction I didn't agree with. My
> disagreement was not of the "this will destroy the project" sort, but I did
> feel the decisions were poor technical choices that could be a long-term drag
> on the project -- creating extra maintenance work for existing developers,
> and creating barriers to entry for new developers. In other words,
> objections very similar to yours now.
No, they aren't similar. In cases like the one you describe, I
invariably seek a compromise or give in. It's what you call "destroy
the project" thing that makes the difference.
> Your value as a maintainer is not lessened if a particular decision doesn't
> go the way you recommended. (Of course, if maintainership becomes
> unenjoyable to you because of the decision, that's a different question, and
> only you can make that call.)
"Unenjoyable"? It's intolerable. It would mean that on my watch
something happened that I believe is detrimental to a project which I
took upon myself to improve, and I saw it happening and didn't prevent
it. Can you understand my plight?
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, (continued)
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Stefan Monnier, 2016/12/01
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/12/02
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, John Wiegley, 2016/12/02
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/12/02
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, John Wiegley, 2016/12/02
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Karl Fogel, 2016/12/02
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Daniel Colascione, 2016/12/02
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/12/02
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Karl Fogel, 2016/12/02
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Philippe Vaucher, 2016/12/15
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- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Daniel Colascione, 2016/12/02
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/12/03
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Daniel Colascione, 2016/12/03
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/12/03
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Alan Mackenzie, 2016/12/03
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/12/03
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Alan Mackenzie, 2016/12/04
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Dmitry Gutov, 2016/12/04
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/12/04
- Re: Preview: portable dumper, Daniel Colascione, 2016/12/03