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Re: delete-selection-mode as default
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: delete-selection-mode as default |
Date: |
Sat, 15 Sep 2018 23:04:17 +0300 |
> From: Stefan Monnier <address@hidden>
> Cc: address@hidden
> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 14:30:35 -0400
>
> >> > Fine, then we agree. The above issue is not relevant to what I
> >> > perceive as the main problem here: how to give us a way to allow
> >> > turning on delete-selection-mode without alienating users who have no
> >> > use for it and very much dislike its effects, in particular when those
> >> > effects are unintended.
> >> AFAIK d-s-m has currently only 2 effects:
> >> - delete the selection before self-insert-command
> >> - same before yank
> >> In both cases, if that's not what the user intended, an important
> >> question is: why was the region active before those commands?
> > Because the user did "C-x C-x"?
>
> So again the problem is not with d-s-m but with C-x C-x, then.
I never said there was some "problem" with delete-selection-mode.
It's not delete-selection-mode that is the problem, it's the fact that
we use the region for 3 different purposes.
> I think many users who are heavy users of the marks for navigation would
> benefit from a "halfway" setting for transient-mark-mode, where commands
> like C-M-SPC, M-h etc... still activate the region, but where C-SPC, and
> C-x C-x don't.
Did you read any of my messages? I think we can have that cake and
eat it, too.
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, (continued)
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, Eli Zaretskii, 2018/09/16
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, Alan Mackenzie, 2018/09/16
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- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, Alan Mackenzie, 2018/09/16
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, Elias MÃ¥rtenson, 2018/09/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, Alan Mackenzie, 2018/09/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, hw, 2018/09/17
- RE: delete-selection-mode as default, Drew Adams, 2018/09/17
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, Stefan Monnier, 2018/09/15
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, Eli Zaretskii, 2018/09/15
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, Stefan Monnier, 2018/09/15
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default,
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- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, Richard Stallman, 2018/09/15
- RE: delete-selection-mode as default, Drew Adams, 2018/09/16
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, hw, 2018/09/15
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, hw, 2018/09/15
- RE: delete-selection-mode as default, Drew Adams, 2018/09/15
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, hw, 2018/09/15
- RE: delete-selection-mode as default, Drew Adams, 2018/09/15
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, hw, 2018/09/16
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, Alan Mackenzie, 2018/09/16
- Re: delete-selection-mode as default, hw, 2018/09/17