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Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers
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Po Lu |
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Re: Making Emacs more friendly to newcomers |
Date: |
Tue, 21 Apr 2020 10:06:51 +0800 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
조성빈 <address@hidden> writes:
> Then you can turn on ‘vanilla-mode’ on your init.el and call it a day.
> ‘vanilla-mode’ will be the current situation of Emacs - it will try to
> be stable.
Experience shows that major changes are not as easy to revert as a
single `(vanilla-mode 1)'.
> Why? If you’re fine with the current level of changes in Emacs, that would
> be the level of changes in ‘vanilla-mode’.
What do you mean? I haven't seen the default binding for `C-v` changed
in about 25 years. It would be a shame if it changed now.
> I’m saying that one can add a variable like ‘expected-emacs-version’ and
> when Emacs is loading init.el and ‘expected-emacs-version’ is different
> from the current version, Emacs can warn you.
That assumes the person with the config puts that variable in, and
anyway it makes for more maintenance burden.
> No, it doesn’t. Better defaults help users and allow them to lighten their
> configuration.
There is no "better default". There's only the default that remains
stable and so far happens to work for everyone.
> The balance I’m suggesting (actually ndame) is to add a ‘vanilla-mode’ for
> people who value stability over features.
You can't stuff major changes in a `vanilla-mode'.
> No, it doesn’t - see previous comments.
Yes it does. I can't be bothered to put an extra line in my .emacs for
every tiny change users decide they want.
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