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Re: [ELPA] New package: transient
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João Távora |
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Re: [ELPA] New package: transient |
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Sat, 2 May 2020 13:20:06 +0100 |
On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 1:11 PM 조성빈 <address@hidden> wrote:
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> 2020. 5. 2. 오후 9:03, João Távora <address@hidden> 작성:
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> On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 12:40 PM Philippe Vaucher <address@hidden> wrote:
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> >> > Interesting point. I think that could work, but wouldn't it be much
> >> > easier if the language itself was self-documenting?
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> >> Maybe, but that entails changing the language, by definition. And you
> >> will face resistance because languages are things people kinda grow
> >> accustomed to. Imagine if I told you the French language should now
> >> also include all the words of Portuguese, because, you know, they're
> >> just better. Even worse with macros. It's like I told you not only you
> >> have to learn Portuguese words, but its grammar, too.
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> > Well I propose to add new-style APIs. People can still use the old ones.
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> But they would have to learn to read programs in the new stuff, no?
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> Well learning the new stuff will be much easier & predictive if done well
> (and that’s the point).
OK, but don't you think it's a little presumptuous to assume that?
To assume that people will find (your) new language easier make
space for it in their minds? Languages, especially the general
purpose parts of language, are very personal and cultural. Can't
you see how this has certain echoes of proclaiming a certain
new-age culture superior to an older one? Certainly, this is
just software and not exactly world domination, but still...
João
- RE: [ELPA] New package: transient, (continued)
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, Philippe Vaucher, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, João Távora, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, Philippe Vaucher, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, João Távora, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, Philippe Vaucher, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, João Távora, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, 조성빈, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient,
João Távora <=
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, 조성빈, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, João Távora, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, Eli Zaretskii, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, João Távora, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, tomas, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, tomas, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, Richard Stallman, 2020/05/02
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, Stefan Monnier, 2020/05/03
- Re: [ELPA] New package: transient, Richard Stallman, 2020/05/03
- RE: [ELPA] New package: transient, Drew Adams, 2020/05/02