Re: Question: loading code when two packages are load?

[Karl Fogel]

On 09 Sep 2021, Qiantan Hong wrote:
> > - Put the code inside an `with-eval-after-load`.
>
> Thanks! This looks like exactly what I need.
> I don’t understand why the manual says
> "well-designed Lisp programs should not use with-eval-after-load”
> and advocate for using require though. 
> Isn’t with-eval-after-load exactly the lazy counterpart of 
> require?

TIL ("Today I Learned") about `with-eval-after-load'!  It's a good 
day :-).

> > Would the "autoload" facility solve this problem?
>
> To my understanding autoload triggers file loading when function 
> invoked,
> while in my case I need to invoke function on file loading 
> (to augment the behavior of that file).

Ah -- I should have read more slowly and thoroughly to grok this, 
sorry.

> It sounds like after-load-functions (although eval-after-load 
> works as well
> because we just need to target some specific packages),
> but somehow manual says it’s an “abnormal hook” which I don’t 
> really understand.
>
> The Hooks for Loading info section seems to try very hard to
> talk people out of using itself.

Heh.  When using one of those facilities that Emacs has yet 
discourages the use of, I usually put a comment explaining why 
it's really the only solution for that particular situation and 
how therefore this is one of those rare *appropriate* uses.

Best regards,
-Karl