Re: Abysmal state of GTK build

[Robert Pluim]

>>>>> On Tue, 23 Aug 2022 23:52:58 -0400, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> said:

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    >> > Requiring a C++ compiler to build Emacs is a big practical
    >> > disadvantage.  Including C++ code in Emacs will be an obstacle for
    >> > people such as me to debug or write code.

    >> Could you elaborate on why this is an issue

    Richard> C++ is a complex language.  I don't want Emacs to require 
developers
    Richard> to know C++.

Meh. C-with-macros as used all over Emacs is complex as well, and also
requires learning. Iʼm neither a C++ fanboy nor an expert in "modern"
C++, but if it can be used to reduce complexity Iʼm all for it. GDB
seems to have had some success with it.

    Richard>                                                 when C++ 
infrastructure
    >> (including GNU C++ infrastructure) is so widely available?

    Richard> I'm sure there will be some users for which getting that running 
is a
    Richard> hassle.  It may be a minority, in which case this would be a 
secondary
    Richard> problem.  Maybe this by itself would not be enough of a reason not 
to
    Richard> use C++.

I canʼt think of a major platform for Emacs which doesnʼt have a C++
compiler (MS-DOS maybe?)

Robert
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