Re: [glob2-devel] How to handle feature request

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Stephane Magnenat wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I suggest we handle feature request through savannah. This has several 
> advantages:
>  
I think its realy not a very good solution (the pits solution may not be 
perfect neather)

> - unified interface with bug reports
>  
they are not related one with the other, it is not the same thing, i 
find this confusing

> - easy attachement possible
>  
FR ae for discussion only, we dont nea to attach files, we only nead to 
attach file for contributions and/or junior jobs

> - external storage and backup
>  
well, we nead a backup system fo the wiki and forum anyway

> - query/search feature
>  
the wiki has that and the forum also, and they work well

> - full bugtracker functionnality
>  
freature requests are no bugs, they are open discutions

> To this end, I've create two items group, one for bugs and one for feature 
> requests. I've modified the web site to have two direct links. For the 
> community, I suggest that the features are discussed on the forum and then, 
> upon consensus, added on savannah.
>
>  
Feature requests definiive nead to be discussed on the forum, phpBB is 
by far the most practical for discustion, but who will bother to submit 
it to savannah once thee is consensus? Isnt it more easy to just make a 
link from the wiki to the forum?

What i propose:

- now that we moved the site, we nead to clean up. It is confusing for 
everyone to see all this possibilities.

We nead the folowing:
- bug tracking: this are bugs, with files attached, we nead to alow 
comments but oroginal post will never be modified. the goeal is to  fix 
them fast and quick.
----> the savannah is the best for that
----> we should change the topic on the forum, and bugs should be only 
on savannah, not the forum, not the wiki, not the mailing list

- general impression and fans:  all this shoud be on the forum, in the 
general discution, and IRC,  i think we are ok with this

- all sort of contributions to the game itself: this are new images for 
the game,  new sunds/music, new presentations, new translations, or 
patches. this are submited by one persson, and once submited, we nead to 
downoad the files, not much discution,  and thats all.  I think savannah 
is good for that.
----> we should use tha patch manager from savannah, of course we must 
fix the categories to include (images, sounds, translation, patch for 
some part of the code)

- other contributions: thi are maps, and tutorials and screenshots.  
They should be on the contributon page on the wiki. this is because we 
nead to link them on the wiki page so that new users can quickly find a 
map they want.  It is easy to publish them so they easy to acess, and we 
dont nead comments or discution on them most of the time.
---> make the contributions area on the wiki only for maps and screenshots.

- junior jobs: they are placed afetr we discussed them, so that new 
users can find somethink they can help with.  Once placed, they will not 
move, we dont nead to coment or discus them, and we nead to acess them 
easily. I think a single page on the wiki is enaught for now (or several 
pages by cathegory if the list get big)
---->  erase jj from the pits, resurct a page in the old style, like it 
was on the old wiki.

- feature requests: this are plans for the game, they are not "to be 
done", only open discutions. they nead two things: to be easy to discuss 
them (the forum is best for that), and to be able to make a list of all 
requests that can change in time, both the list and the description of 
each request.

It is evident that only the wiki is good for the seccond part. On 
savannah, yes, we can make a list of them, but we cant modify the first 
post. All we cand do is mulptiply what the forum does in a less 
practical way.

They are more related witht he roadmap, because some of them may go int 
the roadmap.

I sugest we use the same system like the roadmap: with colors and a link 
to the forum topic, eventualy a little description. they should be 
linked from the Main Issue page, with some sub-pages that list al of 
them. We can use a color for each of them to show their status, and if 
we want to implement one of them, we just copy-paste it into the roadmap.

what do you think?

NOTE:
On savannah:
- Public Areas: Communication Tools, the requests, this topis should be 
erased, it is confusing
- task manager?? this part is not public, and now we have the road-map.  
Is this of any use if not making more confusion?
- Patch manager can be renamed to contributions and edit the catgory so 
that we can add there contributions and patches.
- Bug tracking: we can let the "feature" for little improvement 
requests, nothing to do with long term discution about improvements.


On the wiki:
- pits are useless
- contributins are only for maps and screenshots  from now on. All the 
code related things can go to savannah.

On the forum:
- the topic abut feature discutions should not be about bugs, we have 
savannah for that; if people want to discuss about a possible bug, they 
can do it on the general discution page, not on the one about feature plans.


Do you agree with any of this?